Gear-magnet motor. Just a strange idea

[Low-Q]

Why did you ignore the part after the steel leaves the sticky spot. Surely you would have seen this in your experiments. When you arrive at the pole switch there's your mentioned sticky spot but once you make it through the steel is pushed out of the sticky spot. So +repulsion -repulsion = 0. This is magnetics 101.

What I am concerned about is the strength of the sticky spot, for how long it lasts (The total energy required to pass through the sticky area) versus the energy provided by the attraction and repulsion before and after the sticky area. The attraction and the repulsion strength are also very weak not far from the cylindrical magnet. It is the average force over a total distance/revolution which is interesting, not peaks of great forces which lasts for a few millimeters.

Forces seem promesing if they are strong, but they also do not last for very long, which in turn do not provide much energy after all.

EDIT: My experiments did not show much of an attraction or repulsion before and after the sticky spot. In fact the steel ball feels a slight repulsion right before it enters the sticky spot. This is what i saw when experimenting with SMOTs. If the ball quite far from the enterance of the SMOT ramp, the steel ball was repelled away instead of being attracted. When the steel ball came too close, it finally was attracted to the ramp, and got "sucked in".

Vidar

[lumen]

@Broli
So far I haven't seen any real show stoppers explained at this point. I am concerned about your simplified design missing an important detail. With a stationary magnet placed at the switching point, the steel will only average out a new switching point and not perform any additional work. It will simply see the stationary magnet as a continuation of the switching magnet.

[broli]

@Broli
So far I haven't seen any real show stoppers explained at this point. I am concerned about your simplified design missing an important detail. With a stationary magnet placed at the switching point, the steel will only average out a new switching point and not perform any additional work. It will simply see the stationary magnet as a continuation of the switching magnet.

Hypothetically we can assume that the stat. magnet has no influence on the magnetic domains of the steel due its distance and the local stronger magnetizing field of the coil. However the steel should still act as a magnet and interact as one with the stat. magnet ie. push and pulling it. However lowq may be right when it comes to force magnitudes. Because this so called interaction really happens before and after the switch where the distance is still relatively big between these two. So any energy gain might be sucked up by losses of the system, most notably bearing losses.

I have decided to build this concept in a very professional way. And by also building my own magnetic bearings to rule out any doubt. I hope it can be completed before the end of December. Anyone is free to assist in the building plans, for instance by making cad drawings and build suggestions.

[lumen]

I wasn't going to post this in this thread, but because it works on the same principal, I thought it might shed some insight.

Basically the flexible rings separate as they pass into the magnetic field. As they separate, they press on the rollers and achieve forward angular force which rotates the rotor. Because the rotor never moves into or out of the field, the main drag is domain stiction and eddy currents at high rpm. Both of these can be virtually eliminated with the correct ring material.

[Low-Q]

I wasn't going to post this in this thread, but because it works on the same principal, I thought it might shed some insight.

Basically the flexible rings separate as they pass into the magnetic field. As they separate, they press on the rollers and achieve forward angular force which rotates the rotor. Because the rotor never moves into or out of the field, the main drag is domain stiction and eddy currents at high rpm. Both of these can be virtually eliminated with the correct ring material.

I wish it was that easy. I have posted a thread a few days ago with a similar idea here:http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10029.0
Mine use two parallell steel chains which enters a magnet and are forced apart. Then they push on two none magnetic rollers (Look like gears on a bicycle, but not magnetic material). The magnetic chain also also enters a N/S to be forced together again. Again they are pushing similar rollers in the same direction. Look closely on the drawing in this post. I haven't found any reason (yet) why this will not work...except it would theoretically be easier to enter the first magnet than exiting it. The magnet will pull harder on metal pieces whicn is further apart than close together...then the separated parts will be forced in the opposite direction and counter force the push it does on the roller.

In a few days I will probably find myself in the big black hole again ... finally found where the flaw has been hidden all the time