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Overunity Machines Forum



New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33

Started by hartiberlin, November 17, 2010, 05:47:43 AM

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Omnibus

@Dusty,

Good demo and thanks for sharing. Now you have to think of a way to have the device itself lock and unlock the magnets at the right moments. I tried doing it with a one-way bearing clutch which is something similar to what Mikhail Dmitriyev does. Unfortunately the clutch needs to be able to lock both ways at a certain point and after carrying through one quarter of the circle resume its one-way locking. Probably that can be accomplished but the cam idea seems more technologically viable.

As for rotating @CLaNZeR's stator (and mine too) around the axis of cylinder, that won't seem to help because the poles will stay the same. If, however, it can be rotated sideways somehow just at the right moment, having it mechanically blocked and then later released, that may help. But, again, the device itself has to spend mechanical energy for that reorganization and that energy has to be less than the energy needed to overcome the sticky spot. How can this be done without losing energy to friction?

phild


Just a quick idea.

I found this vid on YouTube, please take a look and then read the on...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VN6KWM8Rbc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

As you can see (If I'm making sense of the vid), the ball runs up a slight incline and because the ramp is quite far apart, it is able to drop out (via gravity) and continue rolling.

The point is: that the ball drops out at a height which is higher then its starting point.   This would suggest that the track could be bent around in a gentle curve, decreasing in height, until its at the starting point of the ramp where it might start again.

Thoughts?





Omnibus

Quote from: phild on November 29, 2010, 08:24:35 AM
Just a quick idea.

I found this vid on YouTube, please take a look and then read the on...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VN6KWM8Rbc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

As you can see (If I'm making sense of the vid), the ball runs up a slight incline and because the ramp is quite far apart, it is able to drop out (via gravity) and continue rolling.

The point is: that the ball drops out at a height which is higher then its starting point.   This would suggest that the track could be bent around in a gentle curve, decreasing in height, until its at the starting point of the ramp where it might start again.

Thoughts?

This experiment (not the concrete video because there are tons of such videos) has been discussed extensively and I have proved conclusively that conservation of energy principle (CoE) can be violated. As I already said, @Roobert33's experiment has to include the principles which the youtube vid you showed is based on. That will guarantee that excess energy is indeed produced which would drive @Roobert33's device. Like I said, it's difficult to analyze that theoretically and the solution will come about only through experiment. Too bad @Roobert33 disappeared in the usual manner so many claimants evaporated into thin air and we can't learn more from his experience. That behavior is so common that I would've wondered if I saw him in this discussion. That would've made me even more suspicious. That's how twisted the whole business in this area of research has become.

ramset

Dusty
Good to see your still at it ,always thinking and sharing !
Perhaps turning would cost less than lifting?
Thanks
@Phild,
Attraction only [Rob the Mr.Handman said]!! "tune" the magnets out and keep the ball rolling?
Seems to be what this fellow is doing?
Not bad for his first attempt!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VN6KWM8Rbc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Thanks
Chet
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Qwert

Hi.
My small observation: all guys here seem to neglect the small contraption at the bottom of the original R33 machine: it is never seen in any replica. I think, it gives a momentary "boost" to the wheel.