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Overunity Machines Forum



New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33

Started by hartiberlin, November 17, 2010, 05:47:43 AM

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Omnibus

Quote from: nievesoliveras on December 02, 2010, 06:54:15 AM
@omnibus

It seems that the idea you have is way better than ours.

Would you be so kind as to esplain it with schematics and graphics?
The whole community will appreciate it very much.

Jesus

All these ideas are basically the same. They are trivial and what's needed is to work on the practical matter of making a demonstrable device. This is what I'm working on right now and I don't think it's necessary to report on every step of my activity. You may have noticed that I post technical details only when it aopears that there's something important to share. So far, as I said, I'm stuck with making the cam properly. The rest is ready (as is usually the case). Will post details when there's a development in this respect.

nievesoliveras

There is a way to seem that you are doing something and just show words that seem cool as an answer.

But a good schematic or graphic will stir the other inventors mind and can help you with your problem.

Jesus

marianpiti

Omnibus....my idea is not like all the rest... I am aware that with static magnets you cant get results (ex: Perendev idea). The only way to make magnets work as we want is to syncronize them and mentain an unbalanced system all the time (if possible) or as long possible in order to produce more constructive work than consumed or non-constructive work. I did tested many, many configurations and I can say that only syncronizing the magnets in order to reproduce as long as possible the unbalanced state of the system can generate constructive mechanic work.

Omnibus

Quote from: marianpiti on December 02, 2010, 09:07:10 AM
Omnibus....my idea is not like all the rest... I am aware that with static magnets you cant get results (ex: Perendev idea). The only way to make magnets work as we want is to syncronize them and mentain an unbalanced system all the time (if possible) or as long possible in order to produce more constructive work than consumed or non-constructive work. I did tested many, many configurations and I can say that only syncronizing the magnets in order to reproduce as long as possible the unbalanced state of the system can generate constructive mechanic work.

Everybody knows that. Where's the model?

Omnibus

Quote from: nievesoliveras on December 02, 2010, 08:12:01 AM
There is a way to seem that you are doing something and just show words that seem cool as an answer.

But a good schematic or graphic will stir the other inventors mind and can help you with your problem.

Jesus

Here's a pic of what I've done so far. As you can see the drum is made of a soda can cut with a Dremmel tool and pairs of magnets placed spirally. You can also see the stator magnet. All is self-explanatory, I hope. With a very slight effort the stator magnet is lifted at the right moment and then let go. That done repetitiously causes the drum to turn. The thing that has to be done is to have the turning of the drum invoke that lifting and the hope is that the work for lifting the stator, when everything is positioned right, will be less than the work to overcome the magnetic barrier if there were no lifting. That hope is based on the evident fact that there is an obvious asymmetry between the force of gravity and the magnetic force. Force of gravity falls with the square of distance (it is practically constant in the studied case) while magnetic force falls with the cube of distance. To take advantage of that asymmetry, however, and make a demonstrable device one has to have watchmaking skills and infrastructure and that's what I'm struugling with at this moment.