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New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33

Started by hartiberlin, November 17, 2010, 05:47:43 AM

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mscoffman

@Nihilanth,

A non-touching non-wear magnetic escapement mechanism
sure does sound interesting. I can't immediately visulize overunity
from it though. Better than magnetic gears.

:S:MarkSCofffman

Low-Q

Quote from: marianpiti on December 02, 2010, 01:38:20 PM
Hi Low...this was my point also... how he plan to put energy in the system in order to make it run, and keep running.
How about your project ? Do you have a solution regarding on what your magnets run and what will hold the turning component ?
This must be discussed and updated in that particular thread. ;)

shylo

Hi Nihilanth.........I already built that rotor, it didn't work for me,.....with a push it was very pulsating in motion,...but always came to rest in the same spot,.....the closest I've come so far is a lever that rides an outer track with a drive magnet,....the track goes up and down at the right times ,....so the drive magnet attracts during down time ,...and repels during up time....the problem I have is the friction on the bearings....if I could get a maglev track like used on those trains I think it would work.........don't stop trying .......shylo

Low-Q

The lever must move a magnet away from the sticky spot. The sticky spot is the very reason why the rotor wants to rotate towards that direction in the first place. Moving the stator magnet away from the sticky spot, will of course require the same amount of energy as the possible energy you gain while rotating towards the sticky spot. So before you guys throw away more time on this, read the words from Robert33 once more, and watch the movie once more to confirm that his rotormagnets definitely are just fake. Such V-tracks will never work, because you must use energy to remove the reason why it wants to rotate in the first place.

Nihilanth

Quote from: shylo on December 05, 2010, 06:33:20 PM
Hi Nihilanth.........I already built that rotor, it didn't work for me,.....with a push it was very pulsating in motion,...but always came to rest in the same spot
Do you recall which spot? Did you use a singular 'v' or more? Did you make sure that the 'sticky spot' repelled the magnets instead of attracting them? Did you try adjusting the distance of the magnets around the wheel?

The problem could very well be the angle that the magnets are moving at. One would be moving in the same direction the wheel rotates in as it approaches the rotor, while the other would be moving against it. One of those movements could have a breaking effect on the rotor, especially depending on how the magnets might rotate. If one side does in fact help preserve the rotor's movement, then it's possible both sides could with two gears making the lever into an 's' shape. Or perhaps the crankshaft design is simply the best after all.

Also, can you please stop with all the ellipses?
"I think it's better to have ideas [than beliefs.] You can change an idea. Changing a belief is trickier. Life should malleable and progressive; working from idea to idea permits that. Beliefs anchor you to certain points and limit growth; new ideas can't generate. Life becomes stagnant." - Rufus the 13 Apostle.