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Overunity Machines Forum



New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33

Started by hartiberlin, November 17, 2010, 05:47:43 AM

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Pirate88179

In my opinion, the data presented thus far support no conclusions at this time.  Having said that, I too see some things that really bother me about this video.  I believe all, if not most of them, have been mentioned in the above posts so, no use repeating them.

The first one that always gets my attention is the stupid music that we have heard on many such videos.  If I had built this and it really worked, I would want the folks to hear the smooth action and the clicking of the mechanisms and also to know there was no air supply running it.

The way the fellow exactly positions the device several times looks a little funny also.  The device is in the shot but yet, it has to be moved just right before the demo.

Anyway, a lot to think about but, I am leaning toward the side of it not being a real device at this time.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

MarkSnoswell

Quote from: Jdo300 on November 18, 2010, 01:39:07 PM
Just a quick observation in case you missed it. If you look closely at the 'magnets' that he has in the V track, you'll notice that the ends appear to be faced off (as in turned on a lathe to create a smooth finish). This seems to imply that the track is not actually made up of magnets (Neos would actually have a smooth, mirror finish on the ends, not a machined look). These are probably slugs of magnetic steel used to attract to the magnet on the moving arm. -Jason O

Hi Jason -- good observation.
Dr Mark Snoswell.
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maw2432

Quote from: MarkSnoswell on November 18, 2010, 04:30:07 PM
Hi Jason -- good observation.

I agree the magnets on the rotor look a little suspect from the video.   They may really be chrome plated plastic to keep the cost down.  With only the bottom or top stator magnets really involved to move the rotor.  The inside center of the rotor could have a pulsed coil and battery.   (hope the battery is not to hard to change and lasts)

Nice work... great kit.  Where can I buy one of these?   I looks like it is near production quality.   
It would be a great desktop kinetic energy toy..
 
Just think the moving sticks  in Ironman cost over $200.   
This could sell for almost as much if made more real.  However it is still a great toy invention. 

Bill   

TinselKoala

Well well well.
Since we know that standard every-day physics -- the kind that explains how your Prius hybrid works -- tells us that permanent magnet-only motors cannot work by themselves, the default position MUST be that the device and the claims of self-running are not for real, UNTIL someone actually shows unequivocally that it does run itself. And roobert isn't  going to be showing us anything like that.
Replicators will be having fun with this one. I can only encourage the builders to do the correct control experiments along the way. There will be a time when you've got a completed assembly and you are trying various things to get it to self-sustain. So rig up a way to give the rotor a repeatable starting spin -- perhaps using a weight and a string and a pulley like I showed with MyLOW -- and then compare rundown times for your device WITH and WITHOUT the critical stator magnet in place. Substitute a non-magnetic weight for it and use a stopwatch, get an average of ten or twenty runs in each condition.
If you EVER get a configuration that runs longer with the stator magnet in place, rather than an inert weight....please let me know ASAP so I can open the financial floodgates for you.

Pirate88179

TK:

I agree with you.  I always "hope" that one of these is real and then want to replicate it but, this one has quite a few irregularities from the get go and more observations are still coming in.  At least, I don't see any fish line in this one, ha ha.

Man, will we ever forget that?

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen