New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33

[shylo]

Hi  all , the problem with this devise is that it is always designed to work on a single plane.A spherical design , that is shaped like the earths magnetic field is where the answer lies. The closer to the poles the tighter the field, the closer to the equator, the more the field spreads out.If somebody could show how to put coils around the earth, to produce AC, I think it could be replicated, since I already have a sphere that mimicks the earths magnetic field.Although my sphere has only 8 poles , but could be increased to as many poles as you want or need.I believe the earth has unlimited poles ,it depends on your point of perspective...............shylo

[shylo]

also the sticky spot that causes so much problem is offset by the design itself, the farther you get from the axis ,the more the field spreads out ,automatically stairstepping the sticky spot.As the magnetic field expands the collapsing field behind it, can add to the up coming opposite ........this only works till you hit the equator , then every thing reverses..............just thinking out loud ....shylo

[Pirate88179]

Shylow:

So, are you suggesting that we should build a PMM the diameter of the earth at the equator?  Please, I am not making fun here, I just want to understand your post.  Tesla once said that, we could build a ring around the earth, and suspend it temporarily while being built but then, gravity would hold it in place and then, it would float independent of the earth's rotation and we could extract tons of power from it.  Maybe this is not related to what you are posting but....your idea sounds interesting to me.

Bill

[shylo]

Hi Bill, I'm saying that we should build a shpere shaped rotor, because with this shape the field starts very tight at the top ,but as you go down around the outside of the ball the field spreads out ,then starts to get closer again as you pass the equator. The rotor I have is eight poles 4n, 4s, ns very close at the axis, ns at the equator ~2" apart. Draw a ball ,now draw two lines all the way around at 90 deg. to each other ,all the norths one side of the lines (4), all the souths on the other side..........shylo

[Omnibus]

As I said earlier, instead of just theorizing about it, it is preferable to start actually doing hands on research on these devices independent of whether or not one would meet with instant success. This process is necessary to gain more knowledge and to fine tune the directions in which success may be achieved. 

Independent of the fact that excess energy can be produced and that's confirmed indisputably by experiments such as the one shown in the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnqXJbwpNRo , that excess energy is so small that some ingenious way has to be found to utilize it for the purposes of continuous rotation. One thing we learn over and over again is that there are no known methods of efficiently transforming rotational excess energy into translational. These were the problems met by everybody who tried to replicate Torbay's device, these are the problems in this device and in any other device where the negative feedback is to be achieved by transferring excess energy into translational energy. Of course, one possible way to go is find ways to increase the amount of excess energy produced and it may be argued that that's what @Roobert33's device does. It may be but I don't see how (even with that additional lever at the bottom). Thus, probanly one lesson that we should learn is that any device requiring transformation of rotational excess energy into translational is doomed practically (it may make sense theoretically but there's no way to achieve it in a real world, friction-prone model). As a matter of fact these are the same problems we're meeting with when trying to make gravity motors.

Also, due to the same friction-loss arguments, doomed is the attempt to use for the purposes of continuous rotation the excess energy produced in one direction for inducing translational motion in a perpendicular direction, as in the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnqXJbwpNRo video.

So, one obvious direction we should pursue is to find conditions for natural asymmetries (recall that natural asymmetries were found in the theory of electricity that lead to OU) in the fields such that the excess energy of the translational motion be used directly in the construction providing continuous spinning. There are may failed attempts in this respect, using mu-metal shielding but that doesn't mean that can't be done. If someone feels there are fundamental reasons why that can't be done he should lay out these reasons and not just reject the idea verbally. So far, I don's see such fundamental reasons. Mybe those who like to use the Maxwell3D simulation or even the 2D simulation can help in this respect.