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New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33

Started by hartiberlin, November 17, 2010, 05:47:43 AM

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Arrow

Quote from: Honk on October 26, 2011, 09:30:14 AM
No free lunch here....
Thanks a lot for kind answer, that was all what I had looking from you because I did not understand English expression used by you :)

Take My deep apologies to you Sir!

Are you able to help me with the following info below from my post?

<I am interesting about that and want to know if anyone here measured by digital gauss meters degradations speed in 1 year of such systems? What is the results? I am sure US Patents 4151431 working from 79 year, there must be results. Very interesting to know such information  to calculate such motors life time to next magnet change time when degradations will rise to 20% level.

Grate thanks in advance for future information!>

Truly
Rob



Arrow

Well, made such simple "instrument" to measure magnet degradation in 1 year. Next video frame after 3 months.
Magnets 1mm x 10mm. Natural, static gravity "presure" on N to N poles is 13gr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNceej2q7-4

Arrow

Grate thanks to Roobert33 for free detailed video.

I made video reverse reconstruction in AutoCad and got approx. size of device in DXF format

here is the link to file if someone have interest to copy it.

http://depositfiles.com/files/smkg4cgxr

Truly
Rob

Scorch

Thank you for the scale analysis drawing.

Are these numbers in millimeters?
Assuming these numbers are in millimeters, and my eyeballs are properly calibrated, I think the scale may be a little off.

I believe the bar magnet, on top, is probably an off-the-shelf 2"L X 1/4" X 1/4" bar magnet.
And the rotor width is somewhere between 2" - 2.5" with a diameter around 4".
But this drawing shows a rotor width over 3.5" and diameter over 6" and a base plate over 13" diameter.

I also believe the upright supports are probably around 1/2" - 5/8", the feet, on the bottom of the base plate, are probably 1/2" or 3/4" disks, the spring is out of a pen at around 3/16" and the moving, wood, dowel is around 1/4" diameter.

You might want to try scaling his hand as compared to an average male hand and see what you come up with.
My index finger is about 80mm and my thumbnail is about 18mm.
And, in this image, his thumbnail is about the same width as the uprights.

Also: I have noticed in the video, and in this CAD drawing, that the "trigger" magnet, at the bottom, appears to be a pair of magnets.
This might be a pair of magnets with opposing fields forced together to create a narrow "focused" north, or south, field.
Or maybe some other paired configuration to create a field at a right angle or some such thing.

This could very well be the key to a successful replication as it may be necessary to have a focused, 'pinpoint' field for proper timing of this magnetic 'switch' at exactly the right point of the ferrite, V track, rotation.

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Quote from: Arrow on October 30, 2011, 04:22:08 AM
Grate thanks to Roobert33 for free detailed video.

I made video reverse reconstruction in AutoCad and got approx. size of device in DXF format

here is the link to file if someone have interest to copy it.

http://depositfiles.com/files/smkg4cgxr

Truly
Rob

Arrow

Quote from: Scorch on October 30, 2011, 01:09:29 PM
Thank you for the scale analysis drawing.

Are these numbers in millimeters?

Yes, in mm . Base object for scaling for me was the magnets on dram-rotor. As for me they are 1/2inch(12.7mm)
And So on..
Tolerance of this drawing by my calculation about +/-2-2.5mm as far as camera was under the angel which is not known Sir.So, if you are not agree with scale then count your own and build your scaled magnet motor:) No problem:)
my calculations show me that (dram) rotor D=145mm(5.708661")
Quote from: Scorch on October 30, 2011, 01:09:29 PM

Also: I have noticed in the video, and in this CAD drawing, that the "trigger" magnet, at the bottom, appears to be a pair of magnets.
This might be a pair of magnets with opposing fields forced together to create a narrow "focused" north, or south, field.
Or maybe some other paired configuration to create a field at a right angle or some such thing.

}:>
Very good and right observation, there are 2 magnets.Here I want to go very easy with logic of field - if we have good pushing/drugging force on the top with magnet that have 90 degree rotation to dram magnets poles, then the bottom one shall be and have the same orientation and add force moment at the its relevant time tic to dram magnet V-gate field.Sorry for my English. Magnets below doubled to make field more wide....(very good mech. ballansed solution from Roobert33!) they are short to reduce the moment mech resistant to push them up and not loose to much inertion energy... It will be more easy to communicate for me in Russia and explane  tech staff that I can see in this good model of motor.