New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33

[Omnibus]

These motors are not characterized by being V-gate or anything of that sort. What really characterizes these motors is that in addition to whatever their construction might be there is also feedback. There's also another type of perpetual mobiles whereby work done along a closed path in a given conservative field is assisted by work done by a different type of a conservative field. Without such assistance on the one hand or without feedback on the other hit is impossible to construct a perpetual mobile. Indeed, anyone who tries to do the latter (that is, resorting to complicating more and more the construction using just one field without feedback) should ignore such attempts.

[Low-Q]

It might be true that in short moments exsess energy are produced, but that energy will be consumed in the next moment somwhere else in the loop. If you try to take out that exsess energy in the right moment, there will not be energy left to complete the loop and the system stops.

Vidar

[Low-Q]

These motors are not characterized by being V-gate or anything of that sort. What really characterizes these motors is that in addition to whatever their construction might be there is also feedback. There's also another type of perpetual mobiles whereby work done along a closed path in a given conservative field is assisted by work done by a different type of a conservative field. Without such assistance on the one hand or without feedback on the other hit is impossible to construct a perpetual mobile. Indeed, anyone who tries to do the latter (that is, resorting to complicating more and more the construction using just one field without feedback) should ignore such attempts.

Is this something about two different kinds of conservative fields?
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10029.msg265129#msg265129

[Qwert]

It might be true that in short moments exsess energy are produced, but that energy will be consumed in the next moment somwhere else in the loop...

You are exactly right! That is the reason why science uses practical experiments even if theory is known. Thus in this project experiments are needed even more, since nobody here seems to know for sure how to calculate/interpret this machine's potential behavior.

[Pirate88179]

Why is this motor still being discussed when the "inventor" admitted using fakery to Stefan?

To me this is like folks trying to make Mylow's motor work.

The design is interesting but obviously flawed or fakery would not have been required to make it work.  I have built hundreds of various magnet motors, or should I say attempted to build, maybe, and hopefully there is a way to do it but I do not believe this motor is it.

Bill