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Overunity Machines Forum



Splitting the electron stream

Started by gravityblock, November 30, 2010, 12:08:47 AM

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gravityblock

Quote from: spinn_MP on December 05, 2010, 07:14:39 AM
"Steorn's effect" successfully reversed Engineered?

Lol!

Really, the math isn't even needed to understand this. If the RPM is changing the inductance at a rate faster than the TC's, then there is a gain. It's that simple.  The resistance must be the inverse of the inductance before this can happen.

Instead of Lol, why don't you try to understand the concept and method I'm describing first.

GB

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

juice

The concept of inductance is a simplification based on the assumption that the rate of change of the current is linearly proportional to the voltage. This is a major assumption, and it is NOT VALID for most electrical systems, including, for example, transformers. Are transformers overunity? No. You prove nothing, with your equations or without.

gravityblock

Quote from: juice on December 05, 2010, 02:30:26 PM
The concept of inductance is a simplification based on the assumption that the rate of change of the current is linearly proportional to the voltage. This is a major assumption, and it is NOT VALID for most electrical systems, including, for example, transformers. Are transformers overunity? No. You prove nothing, with your equations or without.

I'm using L/R for the time constant.  I'm also using the fact that it takes 5 time constants for the current to reach it's maximum value allowed by the resistance.  From this, you can compute the voltage and current values for each of the 5 time constants.  The difference between the total inductance of the coil and the inductance at TDC is 39mH in my example.  Dividing 39mH by 5, then there is 7.8mH.  I divide by 5 because there is 5 time contants.  This means there will be a 7.8mH change in inductance during each of the time constants. If the inductance change is at the same rate as the time contants, then there is no inductance gain.  If the inductance is changing more than 7.8mH during a time constant, then there is an inductance gain.

I'm intergrating the inductance changes over 5 time constants.  This will give the correct end results.  Inductance is changing at a rate proportional to the RPM.  I'm not using the RPM value, but instead using values based on the inductance changing at a rate 2, 3, 4, or 5 times faster than the time constants.  There is nothing wrong with this method.

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

FatBird


gravityblock

Quote from: FatBird on December 05, 2010, 07:25:36 PM
Can somebody post a schematic?

I'll be working on a spreadsheet in the next few hours so we can play with the numbers and for it to be in a format that is easier to understand and read.

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.