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Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output

Started by hartiberlin, December 23, 2010, 10:34:37 AM

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mscoffman

@All,

As I have posted previously, I detect that this kind of closed loop system
where a hydrogen fuel cell runs an ICE engine is a special case of a self
running system. I suspect an ICE engine can be built that runs entirely on
water and air alone, by synthesising ammonia NH3 which has a negative
energy of formation like CO2. This reaction is from standard chemistry
and is not overunity. In fact before the Haber-Bausch process became
the most energy efficient way of synthesising ammonia, ammonia was made
in an engine like process. This reaction could be partially happening in the normal
operating mode of an ICE engine running on high temperature hydrogen with mixed
air aspiration, since N2 is a component of standard air and lacking cooling of carbon
combustion, and fill-in for the energy deficit of an approximate unity gain hydrogen
electrolysis and Carnot efficiency limits of the ICE heat engine. I suspect that
formation of ammonia occurs quite often in these systems and is responsible for
an oder that happens in the exhausts of Myers and the Fast Freddy vehicles.
Whether this is overunity or not depends on whether one accepts ammonia as
a non-pollutant in the environment or not.

This information if true, then it should be part of lore of ICE pure hydrogen engine
conversion. It appears as if this information is being suppressed by opportunists.
This is a good example of why I don't tend to trust the "old names" in the overunity
energy production field. You can not tell what they know from what they say.

ICE engine can either use ammonia as a fuel or synthesise ammonia via the
energy direction of the reaction depending on the parameters of combustion.   

Fuel Cells because of the differences in the reaction do no do this
ammonia synthesis, so I think that overproduction of hydrogen gas
above Faraday volumes should be the only measurement acceptable
for proof of overunity energy production during electrolysis.

:S:MarkSCoffman




ramset

Love the movie!!
A Pretty girl Tossing a sledge hammer always gives me Goose Bumps!!

Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

Omnibus

Quote from: mscoffman on December 23, 2010, 09:10:15 PM
@All,

As I have posted previously, I detect that this kind of closed loop system
where a hydrogen fuel cell runs an ICE engine is a special case of a self
running system. I suspect an ICE engine can be built that runs entirely on
water and air alone, by synthesising ammonia NH3 which has a negative
energy of formation like CO2. This reaction is from standard chemistry
and is not overunity. In fact before the Haber-Bausch process became
the most energy efficient way of synthesising ammonia, ammonia was made
in an engine like process. This reaction could be partially happening in the normal
operating mode of an ICE engine running on high temperature hydrogen with mixed
air aspiration, since N2 is a component of standard air and lacking cooling of carbon
combustion, and fill-in for the energy deficit of an approximate unity gain hydrogen
electrolysis and Carnot efficiency limits of the ICE heat engine. I suspect that
formation of ammonia occurs quite often in these systems and is responsible for
an oder that happens in the exhausts of Myers and the Fast Freddy vehicles.
Whether this is overunity or not depends on whether one accepts ammonia as
a non-pollutant in the environment or not.

This information if true, then it should be part of lore of ICE pure hydrogen engine
conversion. It appears as if this information is being suppressed by opportunists.
This is a good example of why I don't tend to trust the "old names" in the overunity
energy production field. You can not tell what they know from what they say.

ICE engine can either use ammonia as a fuel or synthesise ammonia via the
energy direction of the reaction depending on the parameters of combustion.   

Fuel Cells because of the differences in the reaction do no do this
ammonia synthesis, so I think that overproduction of hydrogen gas
above Faraday volumes should be the only measurement acceptable
for proof of overunity energy production during electrolysis.

:S:MarkSCoffman

Very good analysis. Coincides with my overall assessment too.

exnihiloest

Quote from: hartiberlin on December 23, 2010, 07:23:22 PM
...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ5DCzBry5A
...

Very sad to see this. Pompous videos to impress credulous neophytes are regularly produced by swindlers. I consider that overunity.com is honnest, so I'm very disappointed that such methods are used here instead of careful scientific and rational methods consisting in testing beyond any doubt before claiming to get the holy grail.
We cannot yet conclude with so little evidence as this video. Further proofs are needed. I perfectly agree with Markdansie and ElectricGoose and their analyses and good common sense.


ramset

exnihiloest,
So you won't be sending out any Checks to these guys?

Oh thats right ,I forgot ,they aren't looking for your money.

WWHEWWWW..............
That was close!
Imagine that ?,you actually want proof first!
What a novel concept?
So there really is a pink elephant in the room!

Chill fellahs ,your wallets are safe!
And the profoundly obvious?
Thanks to you boy's
Safe also!!

Merry Christmas
Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma