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Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output

Started by hartiberlin, December 23, 2010, 10:34:37 AM

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Les Banki

All,

Reading posts here in the last few days makes me think I made a mistake and ended up in a wrong thread!!

I will try to bring it back on topic!

First, a few suggestions to Oliver & Valentin:

Replace the Variac with a Phase Control circuit (see my attached circuit diagram and description).  That would also eliminate your power consuming current limiter bar!

If you don’t want to try my circuit, you could try to use a HIGH POWER DIMMER!
(However, a dimmer will NOT adjust your current automatically to compensate for load changes!)

With proper phase control, you will have negligible losses.

Also, since the “Anton cell” is a series cell electrolyzer, keep in mind that its efficiency actually INCREASES as the cell numbers increase!
(see my thesis: HHO-generator ‘closed loop’ set-up)

Some posters are critical about your use of a battery for your ignition set-up.
Ignore them!!
They don’t understand that a properly designed ignition system will use less than 10W!

Further, please IGNORE the downright STUPID cries for exhaust “analysis”, University “validation”, etc.!
No matter what you do, you will NEVER be able to convince those who “know” that what you guys have done is “impossible”!!!
So my advice is:
Instead of wasting your time and energies trying to satisfy those ‘no-hopers’, please use those valuable energies on your project!

OK.
I am somewhat surprised to find that the files I have attached to my earlier posts a few days ago have been downloaded many times!
I get the impression that there may be some interest in my work! 

Perhaps some of you would like to know how MY closed loop system will be set up!

While nothing “secret” or “fancy”, so far only a couple of people were ‘privy’ to the last closed loop details of my set-up since I choose NOT to publish them before.
(Most of the other circuit details of my ECU design have been available to all for the last 2-3 years.)

A few days ago I decided to write down and release the remaining bits of information.

To avoid making this post too long, I wrote it as a Word document.  (attached)
I have also attached some pictures of the prototype ECU and some circuit boards.
Please note that the pictures of the ECU do not show all connections to it.
Nor does it show the extra LEDs to indicate which power supply is being used at the time. [start-up (mains, inverter) or the power from the generator]
Those LEDs will be added to the control panel later.

In the next few days I am going to take some more pictures (this time of the ‘internals’ of the ECU) which will hopefully give you an idea of what is involved!

Since the Anton cell is a series cell electrolyzer, I am still on topic when I repeat my response to one of Stefan’s post:  (note the date!)


6     Hydrogen energy / Motors or Vehicles running on HHO or Hydrogen only, no gasoline / Re: HHO explosion slowing down the burn speed of HHO to get compatible with gasoline
on: April 24, 2009, 07:10:12 AM

“Hi Stefan,

It is not clear from your post if the 2.4V is across 2 series OR 2 parallel cells.
I assume you intend to run a series cell electrolyzer directly from the mains, (220VAC in Germany), full wave rectified but DO NOT filter it!

For 220V you should have 110 cells for maximum efficiency.
(you should NOT exceed 2V per cell!)
And yes, the SERIES cells arrangement is the only way to go! 

Cells operating at voltages higher than, say, 2.5V, is a waste of time and effort.
Further, current density should be no higher than 30 - 40mA per square cm
Calculate plate sizes accordingly.

Also, distance between plates should be no more than 3mm and as EVEN as possible. 
SS316L is the best material for the plates.

DO NOT  use chemicals to clean them and cross hatch them (by hand) with emery paper.
DO NOT touch by hand!  Use gloves.
(Same instructions as Bob Boyce has published repeatedly over the years.)

If all these points are observed, you WILL produce high quality hydroxy and you will only need 1 to 4% of hydroxy and 99 - 96% air.
You will have MORE THAN ENOUGH to run the engine AND have power left over!

Have fun!  You will enjoy the result!”

Best regards,
Les Banki 

Ps. Since my attachments are larger than the limits for this Forum, I need to make a couple of extra posts just for the attachments!

Les Banki

more attachments....
I don't seem to be able to do more than 2 at the time....
It is too time consuming....!

Would some of you be able to tell me if its possible to upload ALL my files to perhaps ONE Folder here?

Thanks.
Best regards,
Les Banki


Les Banki

still more files....
I think that's it! (for now)

I hope all of you like them!

Best regards,
Les Banki

markdansie

Hi Les.
you are a good electrical designer. Was good to catch up with you the otherday and i wish you all the best.
I do have issue with you. I was one of the no hoper's you mentioned wanting exhaust tests. There are three reasons:
1. To gain more understanding of the combustion processes. I have worked with and consulted with some very good combustion engineers.
2. To see if there were any carbon introduced into the system. Many of my friends and I who have performed tests for our own research or part of a validation process for investors this is the first test we do. Given the many scammers that have both privately and publically been exposed in the past this is the best tell tale sign of foul play. However I suspect in this case ammonia may have been introduced...go read Oliver's reply. I have not a problem with this
A friend of mine in the next week is testing another self runner claim...first thing he packed was a exhaust gas testing unit.
3. There is often a considerable amount of money at stake from investors for proof of concept. This is help in escrow. The people who have this money insist on using good engineers and ...in the case o HHO testing exhaust gas analysis
Kind Regards
Mark