Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output

[bolt]

I know that some people completely safe  use HHO dry cell under 30 psi to remove foam and bubles and make better liquid flow(without buble saturation).
so it is claimed that its safe to operate cell at 30 psi level , which also increase HHO production. Remember Even Stanley Meyer had his cells under pressure.

Yes people have done this but its VERY dangerous. In explosion event the  power is magnitudes higher then low pressure HHO and nor is it necessary to run pressurised because the engine will take it to 160 PSI in any case in a controlled manor.

If HHO COP is above 3 inside gas engine, why closed loops are announced so late ?

Mainly becuase of the internet over the last 10 years has sent research into a race reaching more people to conduct their own experiments but the process of HHO can be used as an OU event has been known since the early 1900's.

Classic gas engine has les than 30 % eff.. maybe HHO works cooler and eff is higher.

Its true gasoline engine is very bad efficiency but here we are talking about HHO. However in a car engine used with gasoline with such massive losses usually accepted as the norm it takes very little HHO to increase from say efficiency  from 25% to 35%. Now you have a standard small 100Kw engine providing an additional 10kw of power that would otherwise be wasted as heat!  So many people only think of the energy going into the cell but its what happens to HHO after it leaves the cell leads to OU or at least much greater efficiently when used in car engine. It doesn't take much to realise if you have increased MPG by say 30% that is a LOT of KW's been saved that would have been wasted yet the cell is only perhaps 100 watts.

First page of this topic, original "german video" "self running generator in elevator" , do I see it clear , but it seems that HHO tube goes directly into engine WITHOUT any air? So this would man engine works at 100% HHO , am I wrong here? BB , Les Banki and all others claim 99% air and 1% hho is great ratio.

The 3/4" pipe going into the engine is basically "wide open throttle" with a 1/4" HHO mixer pipe.

I have never seen that simple PWM without any "back emf effect" (inductor needed) can produce greater eff. PWM justs makes current to be at your own desire.

PWM requires critical frequency tuning for pure resonance. Most PWM's don't allow for this or people just buy standard off the shelf devices and add them only for current control.

Question is HOW to get 3 X Faraday COP? You say that 3 COP is HHO inside gas engine. So we need another 3 COP above Faraday for cell itself


Is there any 100% proved 100% every time successfull method for making HHO cell that can have 3X or more faraday ? (using pwm)

COP 3 appears within the combustion chamber so its loop-able as seen in the video. In case be enhanced a lot more using tuned  PWM and ultrasonic charged water injection system. By passing the fogged water through two plates like a capacitor charged to 25Kv the droplets becomes charged and become part of the fuel process.

Now HHO heater?

Maybe just what is needed is that we heat some material above some point... I made experiemnt myself and heating water cointaner = NO OU., but maybe if we heat piece of metal that becomes glowing we get OU (process you described)
Do you have any more data about Rocks needed ?

You can not use metal as the metal itself will run with gain adding to more electrons creating runway heat condition even tungsten will burn within HHO so whatever metal you use will  become molten. Not so good for a heater.

I don't know what rocks work best only those with high crystal structure perhaps like quartz and stuff. Several patents on this technology including Korean company making HHO home heaters WAY over unity.

What about HHO and Propane /butane mixture. Some people from Italy slaim that this way HHO small amount makes butane have 18 time more BTU !!! ?

I believe that to be true for the same reason as gasoline engine butane is poor burning and small amount of HHO provides a massive increase in heat output.  Again if you already have a supply of fuel HHO will provide a huge boost. Use a butane space heater and inject HHO around the existing burner will send heat from a dull red glow to bright yellow like a jet engine.

[bolt]

Dry cell seems more safer, but BB cell makes above Faraday with just DC

What about claims that detonation destroys engine quickly ? Can anyone prove long term HHO run for small generator and engine condition?

Many people have been running gensets for hundreds if not thousands of hours on pure HHO. Fact is the engine runs a lot colder. This was known fact from HHO use during the 2nd world war. Cars, tanks and all kinds of things ran on HHO mix so it not a new technology just suppressed from mainstream use.

You can put your hand on the muffler its just warm.  Problems occur only when the timing has not been corrected properly to run on HHO. When car manufactures looked at hydrogen fuel powered cars they ran dozens of test lasting  years and were surprised the engines did not require any mechanical changes or coatings to support long life operation. Any stories you hear about blown pistons is because the timing was miles out to support proper HHO operation.

[haithar]

Well there is speculation that the HHO implodes first before it explodes, because one of Les Banki's collegues found that the most efficient ignition point was *before* TDC, which would suggest implosion before explosion. 

The implosion thing has already been extensively tested, the main problem is that this forum is a mess and you cannot find all information in one place.

http://www.youtube.com/user/erzketzer1#p/u

[grizli]

I really cant fins and PWM that actually works. Only that has potential so far is BB pwm but it does not work every  time, people who got resonant action are few.

Ravi cell has potential. But its all far from required 30-80 LPM for smaller engine (car engine).

maybe best way is to use gas generator , battery charging and electric motor..

Sorry for going off topic

Bolt what is exactly the best PWM cell you have found out so far ?

You mean water steam made by piezzoelectric , that come through HV plates ..

I think its NOT about water resonance its about ELECTRIC series RLC circuit

[Feynman]

The implosion thing has already been extensively tested, the main problem is that this forum is a mess and you cannot find all information in one place.

http://www.youtube.com/user/erzketzer1#p/u

So what's the answer... does it implode , or is it still a mystery why sometimes it's best to ignite prior to TDC?

That youtube channel looks good but it's all in German!