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Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output

Started by hartiberlin, December 23, 2010, 10:34:37 AM

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MasterPlaster

@bolt re distilled water.

You can buy deionized water from places where they sell auto spares in 5 liter containers.
It is used for topping up batteries.

Also, the 99p stores sells a smaller bottle but they call it "water for ironing!".


Les Banki

All,

I decided to hold off the release of my ‘autorpm’ circuit diagram, description AND pcb layout, UNTIL I can clear up (or at least try!) the confusion about my BASIC ignition/injection design!!

You see, all the private feed back I am receiving indicates that there is virtually not a single individual who fully understands how my ignition/injection design works, despite its almost unbelievable simplicity!!
Perhaps I failed to explain it properly in several pages of detailed circuit description!

No, this is NOT just another, detailed, lengthy circuit description!!
It is only a BRIEF technical explanation of the PRINCIPLE behind that design and I don’t go into circuit details (on the component level) at all!

It is certainly true that “a picture is worth a thousand words”.
Therefore, I have put considerable effort into this new, brief explanation, supported by oscilloscope screen images.

Before I go on, just a few words about those images.
The original images are in ‘bitmap’ (BMP) and are very nice but since this Forum does not accept that format, I had to convert them to another format.
Further, a couple of things needs to be pointed out in case some of you examine those images and readings in DETAIL!

Here I have used my latest oscilloscope, the ‘ScreenScope’, (only 6 months old) which was designed and made here in Australia. 
Unfortunately, however, it still has some minor “bugs” (software) which I reported to the designer and he is working on a ‘fix’ now.   
One of those “bugs” is that the ‘Auto measure’ Frequency reading on ‘Channel 1’ is WRONG while its graticule (grid) reading is CORRECT.
(Channel 2’s ‘Auto measure’ Frequency reading is CORRECT and so is its graticule.)

Otherwise, the images I present here are good enough for the purpose of this explanation.

OK.
Here we go:
In the image ‘sawto2’ you see a saw tooth.
That saw tooth is created from 2 pulses from the Hall switch.
The time period between ANY two subsequent pulses from the Hall switch IS the total time of a complete WORK cycle of the engine.

Repeat: THAT SAW TOOTH REPRESENTS THE ENTIRE WORK CYCLE OF THE
ENGINE!!

As the engine speed changes, the time period (frequency) of the saw tooth changes accordingly.

Now to image ‘ignpu’:
Here you see the saw tooth again, PLUS a narrow (100µs) IGNITION trigger pulse.
(Channel 2, green trace)

So how was/is this trigger pulse created?
By using the EXACT same principle as a PWM!
You feed that saw tooth into one input of a comparator while supplying an ADJUSTABLE voltage to its other input and BINGO, you are “in business”!
OK.
I use an additional monostable IC as well, which can be edge triggered on the rising (or falling) input pulse.  With that, I create the EXACT pulse length I want.

Now, this IGNITION trigger pulse can be moved to ANY point on the slope!
THIS IS HOW THE IGNITION POSITION IS ADJUSTED!

I told you it is almost unbelievably simple!!
Once you ‘grasp’ it, I think you will agree with that statement!

In the ‘inject’ image, you see the SAME saw tooth is fed to another comparator but the process is EXACTLY the same as for the ignition pulse creation.

The only difference is the pulse WIDTH.
The pulse POSITION is changed by one control (potentiometer) and another control changes the pulse WIDTH which is the actual SPEED control of the engine!

Since all my oscilloscopes (4) are only dual trace, I can’t show you the real life situation where the IGNITION and INJECTION pulses are super imposed on the same saw tooth.

All images were recorded from the bread board set up so just ignore the noise on the saw tooth.  (By the way, the noise DOES NOT interfere with circuit operation.) 

That straight (but noisy!) slope of the saw tooth is my “software”, if you like!!
Calculating the voltage to the comparator in order to place a pulse at ANY point on the slope takes me perhaps 3 minutes.
Compare THAT to the HUNDREDS OF HOURS of programming and ‘de-bugging’ time for a microprocessor! 
(NOT my figures!  It came from expert programmers with over 20 years of experience!)

With the help of these images, perhaps everyone can now see AND understand that the PRINCIPLE used in this design GUARANTEES that both the ignition and injection pulses are ALWAYS at the same DEGREE of engine rotation, REGARDLESS of RPM! 

Well, so much for the arguments of 555 time delays and divide by two flip-flops, etc.!
Enough said!

Best regards,
Les Banki


markdansie


norco

so good gay to you all
I am very impress with the HHO, and I did build one, but as son as I go over 10A I get very small white bubbles in my HHO dry cel.
I only us potassium hydroxide (KOH) with distal water.

Q1: how can I avoid the bubbles?
Q2: How can i increase my production and be more efficacy?

Thank you
:D