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Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output

Started by hartiberlin, December 23, 2010, 10:34:37 AM

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ThereIsNoSpoon2

If I were to build a system like shown I would introduce a little more sophisticated system then just a basic RPM control unit.
It is not just about getting the engine to run stable. It's a science experiment too. You going to want a proper CPU in the system, like an Atmel. This system should control the power/frequency/waveform to the electrolyzer (or multiple electrolyzers) , control fuel injection, control engine ignition and at the same time measure PSI sensors, engine RPM, load voltage+amps and connect the whole system to pc where you can play with all the settings and log all the results to a database from which you can create graphs and reports. In my universe this is not a luxury but a basic platform to start such an experiment.

exnihiloest

Quote from: hartiberlin on December 25, 2010, 10:35:23 PM
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To the skeptics:

HHO does not burn,
it DOES DETONATE, this is very different versus a gasoline-air mixture,
thus it produces much more mechanical output.
...

Where can we find the raw data of the measurements?
Have we evidence that the electrodes are not consumed?
Is there a third party duplication of Oliver and Valentin's device?

Without answers to these questions which are the basic ones of a scientific methodology, it is very prematurate to speak of OU.


exnihiloest

Quote from: ramset on December 24, 2010, 09:56:54 AM
exnihiloest,
So you won't be sending out any Checks to these guys?

Oh thats right ,I forgot ,they aren't looking for your money.

WWHEWWWW..............
That was close!
Imagine that ?,you actually want proof first!
What a novel concept?
So there really is a pink elephant in the room!

Chill fellahs ,your wallets are safe!
And the profoundly obvious?
Thanks to you boy's
Safe also!!

Merry Christmas
Chet

Even though Oliver and Valentin are sincere, it doesn't prove they get OU.
What I say is that we are completely outside of science, which needs measurements and third party duplications. Instead we have pretty videos for rising enthousiasm of naive believers, we are in the domain of faith. I agree it is the good moment: we can see also many videos with Father Christmas, so according to the same method of reasoning, we can be sure that Father Christmas exists and delivers gifts around the world at more than the speed of light.   :D



exnihiloest

Quote from: tagor on December 24, 2010, 12:21:49 PM

do you want to sponsor this validation ?
I can give you an organisation CERNTEA
I can give you a university in Montpelier
do you have the money ?

The first thing is to publish the exact description of the device. Where is it?
We are enough experimenters here to duplicate it and to give it some credibility if we observe it works.

Remember what happened with the lifter. At the beginning it was not clear if it was really a levitating object. It was question of anti-gravity. JL Naudin published a well documented procedure to build one. Many experimenters made a lifter and attested that it worked, there was no doubt. Then it was proved that it was not AG. It was a conventional device that works.

Here we have not even the possibility to duplicate the system because it is not fully described. And if we had it, we would have still to check if it is really OU, with nothing consumed. We are far from being at the starting point of an evaluation, so conclusions with OU claims are neither serious nor credible.



Low-Q

Quote from: bolt on December 26, 2010, 01:50:30 AM
What happened to Brian is real i reported here a couple of times this happened about 4 years ago now while working on LOOPED RV's.  You know the things that people here say are IMPOSSIBLE like looping gas engine etc with HHO. Maybe with 2011 its time for a wakeup call.

.........
It is not impossible to loop back the engine if the energy input are taken from the mass in the water. It will however be impossible to CREATE energy out of nothing. But water is SOMETHING, and this something we can convert into energy.
I was watching my 3 year old son making a train track here the other day. He wanted to build a "8" track, but hadn't enough parts to complete it, so he had an idea of taking the parts from the other end, but what he was not thinking of was that he was shortening the track as he was suppose to add parts expand the length. This is the problem we face when trying to make an overunity motor as well. If a HHO motor can be looped, and possible to run inside a closed looped system, the extra energy input must be taken from something. This something must be mass which is partially converted into energy.

Vidar