Joule Ringer!

[gadgetmall]

I think we should look into delay line construction ., Here is a link to build one http://www.hawestv.com/mtv_color%5Cdelayline.htm 
this Delay line is 23 inches long and is over 2800 winds of what i call tesla wire #38. It explains how to make a coil like a capacitor using coax cable as a core with it's center removed and using the rf shield braid inside the winding as a core along with layers of paper and foil around the windings.It is conceivable to add many of these in series/parallel to obtain a few seconds of energy delay to loop the fugi output and feedback the circuit to self sustain with a 10,000uf capacitor initially charged to a nominal voltage  . Mind you the supercap will not work probably due to its internal Resistance. The following was borrowed from the above site and is credited to Original art by James T. Hawes who replicated this delay line for a replacement in old color tv's.

Cover the winding with a very thin dielectric paper. You'll find such paper inside old capacitors. Pull out the paper and reuse it.
Cover the dielectric paper with tin foil. The foil must extend past the end of the paper. Make sure that the foil doesn't touch the winding.
Ground the tin foil to the inside braid. Be careful not to short the winding to the grounding foil.
Remove the metal rod.
Cover the entire winding with electrical tape.

If anyone is still onboard i would like your opinions.I think the "ringing" is really stored capacitance in the external coil matching or exceeding the specs of a 10,000uf capacitor he used to power up.So ineffect the starting capacitor is actually depleted at start but recharged by this delay line coil in a fraction of a second and therfor the "ring" or feedback which is enuff to keep the transistor oscillating . I know it will oscillate lower than 2 ma however 2 ma at 1.5 volts is not enuff to light a cfl BUT 2ma @ 6 volts probably will.
I also suspect the delay line theory is the key to many claims of free energy including the SM TPU,kapanadze device,Witts and others. Could it be as simple as wraping our coils with paper and foil in Layers as described ..
Kooler and Mk1 if you are still around can you give some input . I will attempt this when time allows but i needed to get this information out now.For those of you who have Camera Flash circuits lets get back to the original concept in the picture .
Gadget

[baroutologos]

i always thought that joule ringer worked by having a " wet battery-coil" that provides voltage and some (minute) current for running the system.
Delay line? No galvanic action?

[gadgetmall]

i always thought that joule ringer worked by having a " wet battery-coil" that provides voltage and some (minute) current for running the system.
Delay line? No galvanic action?

No it was a Coil and not an Air battery . He  made some air batterys but this one was just a coil wound a certain way and runs off a standard 10,000 uf electrolytic cap  alone

[Pirate88179]

Gadget:

Did he ever try a supercap in that circuit?  I know it would be just like having a battery in the circuit BUT, my question is....can we get a supercap to ring in resonance like he did with the one he used?

Bill

[gadgetmall]

Gadget:

Did he ever try a supercap in that circuit?  I know it would be just like having a battery in the circuit BUT, my question is....can we get a supercap to ring in resonance like he did with the one he used?

Bill

Hi Bill
recap on this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoEXCweMxhk he showed replacing the rail with a supercap. YEp we know the fuji will run on a super cap and i remember you ran one charged from your EB.

yes he did try a supercap and it didnt work for a min..i am still trying to do this replication like his . I got plenty of those parts it;s just a mystery on the coil part . I suspect he made the coil hold energy  like a cap and Delayline and you know he fead back the HV from the CFL back to the 10,000ufcap so it could charge instantly.I myself  have one led E light that is recharging it self running for years now BUT i don't remember how i did it and encased it so i won't mess it up .I used a couple of very tiny ferrite beads and lots of fine wire and several caps and germaniums and a special transistor and i tried to take it apart to retrace and draw the schematic to share and messed it up and snapped  tiny wires .i couldn't take it apart because i used epoxy on parts of it . I found it fixed it and encased the circuit in Lucite . I was just poking around with new e-light circuits and wala .Now people don't believe this but i already knew it can be done.The question remains if it runs forever in a feedback mode . I doubt it .Either the nimh battery will eventually fail or the led will burn out . I have seen an led burn out of its  life on a pal-light i have . look em up they stay lit so you can find them and i always kept a fresh 9 volt in in . It eventually stopped lightning after years and years and i suspect is ran over its rated hours . I replaced it and good to go .My little light will run until a component fails. I believe Lasersaber stumbled on a simular thing .
you know Lidmotor could not replicate it with a standard cap and he did use a supercap although just not the same .
I ain't giving up on this one  . so many projects and My Daughter just started 5th grade...wheew...
BTW i am waiting for winter for my Nitinol project . Cool is a problem and i cannot get the wire to phase change fast enuff yet with all the hot weather ,rain every day ,, Ahh winter..