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DRJ600 350% CNF reactor

Started by Doctor No, January 09, 2011, 05:58:05 PM

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lancaIV

I do not use coal/gas for heating,our house here is heated by electric heater !  :'(

Your example is a litte confuse-producing,Doktor No !
Cause you are giving a wheater extreme condition, for example in central Germany are only 4 hours below 15 degree Celsius per annum !

But now my heat calculation using a box model :

ground area 20sqm   5m large x 4m wide x 2,5 m high
surface         85sqm   
K-value         2,0         old construction,1-glass window
temperature amplitude  40 degree C   
=20degree + inside/20degree - outside

85x2x40=6800 heat units = 6800Watt=6,8KW for 20sqm ground area
Doktor No, you write about 200sqm ground area ergo 10x 6,8KW= 68KW !

Have you got this wheater extreme all the day so you have to calculate

68KWx24h for my virtual 10x20sqm box modell !                 
50KWx24h using your coal/gas heated 200sqm house example !
14KWx24h using your DRJ-machine heated 200sqm house example !

Where is my mistake,Doktor No ?

Sincerely
               CdL

Doctor No

Not very. I had to consult all with Main Constructor of DRJ, Doctor S. He has practise in 1 finger:-), i dealed with long time ago and much forgotten. So it is always with coefficients when we don^t know how they are build and what they mean. Explanation is simply: after You heat 85 m2 by K=2 and use 6.8 kWh it should 24H to reach till next heat process. Simply say 6.8 heat is for 24 hours needed. So we can compare this K=2 to about 340 W/m2. Both dates are really obsolete today. K has  to be under 1.1 for each element, window fe. By passive homes it is only 0.6-(when good heard through phone;-)). Better please give us how much electricity You need to heat this place. By comparing real dates with theory we can effectivity of Your system to reach.

lancaIV

Hello Doktor No,

"surface" is the floor,tect and 4 walls sqm area= 85sqm !
The 20sqm box volume is 5mx4mx2,5m=50m3

K=Waermedurchleit-K-oeffizient(germ.): this number defines the heat loss
little numbers easy to reach with EPS/PU/Vacuum-Cells
like www.isorast.de  www.styrostone.com

I know something about the actual construction standart and about our common EU-target: the N-early Z-ero E-nergy B-uilding, Passiv-Haus/Negawatt-Haus up to the Aktiv-/Plus-Energie-Haus and the technical
construction needs !

But when you give us an old-bad isolated- building example I have to calculate and think about this example and not about what could be when .... !

My mental concentration actually : www.al-bernstein-industries.com

Sincerely
               CdL

Doctor No

I know  what K means, but forgetten how to use it for calcs. Last time i had used for simulations when we started with DRJ/VHG some years ago. It took many time to test it by oil refining industry also. Doctor S which is a genius polish constructor, had simplified and improved my project. Doctor S is more worth as 100 constructors by BMW, Mercedes and others. When You have problems my mechanics, engines, buildings constructions, he can surely help. To heat.                                      New homes will be not very much built  before War. Rather after, when anybody stands alive:-)  Here in Poland, most homes is built between 200-350 W/sqm. People have already much problems to heat them but really dont do anything about. But what with Your electricity consumption? I think it takes over 15 kwh electricity/day. Em i right?

lancaIV

Yes,Doktor No,more than 15KWH/day,but included also the kitchen and bath room electricity consume !

I do not disagree about the technical possibilities of a polish constructor
but such a proclamation like " more worth as 100 constructors "  :-\ !
You shall be glad to have such a good help !
Actually a very important polish project:
Uni Lublin,Prof.Nazimek EKOBENZ CO2-2-fuel  similar Carbonsciences in the US

But coming back to your own project :
is the electricity to heat process same/similar the function of a friction heater ?
Do you actually use a fixed-RPM-electric motor or better-load oriented-a
variable speed drive ?
Is the working medium air or an other fluid ?
Is the transformed heat range same/similar the air-2-water heat pump level i.g.50- 60degree Celsius or above 90degree C. ?

Sincerely
               CdL