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2 of my inertial drive designs.

Started by pinobot, February 03, 2011, 05:51:36 PM

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pinobot

For the water design there is a patent. :)
US20090165594
The problem with fluids is that they are very difficult to move in an uniform manner.

To boldly stay home.

broli

That's actually funny. So where are the flying cars?

Something this easy should have at least had a working prototype before the patent was granted. But then again if you look at other patents being granted...

With a decent circulating pump you could build this.

broli

Here's something you can double check.

The below illustration shows a setup with a single mass. The mass changes its radius during operation, it's important to note that this is done internally not externally to the rotating setup. So imagine someone pulling in and out the mass with a cord from the center of rotation. Just like pulling in and out your arms on a rotating chair.

Thus considering conservation of angular momentum we can say something about the change of velocity.

All in all what the analysis shows is that the average force due to the small radius is 8 times higher than the bigger radius. But what matters is force over time, this would give us a unit of gained moment due some force. When we use the arc lengths and velocities we find that the mass takes 4 times less time to complete the arc length of the smaller radius.

If we combine both force and time we get the gained momentum in some direction. In this case there's an asymmetric momentum gain over time. The contribution of momentum due to the smaller radius is twice as high.

I know that pulling in the mass requires you pushing the wheel towards the mass, but this can be canceled by adding a mirrored setup.

I know that this asymmetry all happens due velocity having a squared relationship but could you double check this.

gravityblock

Quote from: pinobot on February 07, 2011, 03:04:43 PM
For the water design there is a patent. :)
US20090165594
The problem with fluids is that they are very difficult to move in an uniform manner.

Not when done correctly.  Watch how the water immediately changes direction when the "wand" moving around the rim of the bowl changes direction.  The water is behaving similar to a superfluid, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUvbBK9fGrw

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

exnihiloest

Quote from: pinobot on February 06, 2011, 09:07:57 PM
Ok, very quiet here, so i'll do all the talking.  ;D
This 'works' because the weight is shifted from right to left.
To be honest it's the only design i haven't been able to falsify, i just can't get my head around it .

Refering to: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10326.0;attach=50752
In order the wheel to rotate clockwise, the right weight must be more than the left. This implies that the right mass that you shift left, must be at a lower height than the mid height of the wheel, at the moment you shift it. Therefore you have to exert a work to raise it a bit.