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1 kW zero point energy @ Peswiki.com

Started by Low-Q, February 10, 2011, 07:48:07 AM

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Low-Q

Quote from: neptune on February 10, 2011, 12:37:39 PM
@Low-Q . once again I am indebted to you for your help .Thanks . I f you read the article very carefully , you will see that the capacitor does not have to be just two plates in the final version . The two plates design was for the earlier version . Never the less , we are talking a lot of capacitance at 25mf . An electrolytic capacitor is unsuitable . The author says a "commercial" capacitor is suitable ,but I would think that such a cap would be physically large . Same with the coil . I seem to recall that the author mentions a coil diameter of 7cms . Does anyone have any idea of the number of turns to achieve 100mH on a 7 cm former . As you rightly point out , the aim is a tank circuit with a high Q factor . This brings in to play , I seem to remember , coil shape factor [length/diameter ratio] and also , I think there is an optimum L to C  ratio . I do not say that these problems are insurmountable ,but the author talks about a unit the size of an electric drill . So it is not going to be as easy as building a crystal radio set ... On the other hand , If i built a 1Kw unit the size of a washing machine , I would be quite Happy .
You can use a smaller inductor, like any value, but the capacitor must also be adjusted to the approperiate value to maintain same frequency. The smaller the inductor are, the less resistance, hence higher Q. A 100mH air core inductor at only 7cm in diameter means quite many turns of thin wire. Use an even bigger oil, thicker wire and less turns. Make the coil as short as possible to increase the inductivity further.
However, with a 1000uF capacitor you need only 2.5mH inductor to meet the requirement of 100Hz resonance. Now the inductor can be made maller, with less resistance, and higher Q. However, in such circuit, the current flowing through the components will increase greately compared to a bigger coil and smaller capacitor. What do you need? High or low current flow?

I guess a "suitable" balance in component values can provide the highest efficiency. What values these are, are depending on the mechanical system and the load.

Vidar

neptune

@Low-Q . I have taken note of all the information you gave me . Thanks . It is true what you say about the highest efficiency being obtained by a suitable choice of component values . To start with , it would be enough to build a machine that would self rotate , without a load . Proof of concept . At this stage ,the actual current value would not matter as long as the wire used could carry it without melting . When we consider a load , we can then think about current and voltage . Initially ,the load could only consist of a purely resistive load with a neutral temperature coefficient , or it would de-tune the machine and stop it .
        In my radio days , I used a home made Grid Dip Oscillator to find the resonant frequency of tuned circuits . This method could not be used here due to the low frequency . One idea is to add a temporary extra feedback coil to the tank circuit , and build a one transistor audio oscillator . You could listen to the oscillation on headphones and compare it to the notes of an electric organ , or use a frequency counter . Although this device looks deceptively simple , I feel that success would only be achieved by someone who is very good at mathematics .

neptune

Further to my last post . Re organ notes . find middle C , then work down one octave to the C below . now go down to the G below that . The frequency of that G is 98 Hz . Here is another thought . This design will either work or it will not work . Therefore , providing the tuned circuit has a reasonable Q , All you need to do is rotate the magnet by outside energy , and allow it to slow down until its speed is synchronised with the frequency of the tuned circuit . At this point it should "lock" and continue to run on its own . In practise this may need many tries . I remember trying to use a bicycle dynamo as a synchronous motor on a 6 volt 50 cycle supply . I could start it as above using a bit of string wound round the pulley , but the success rate was only about 10% .In the case of the zero point machine , it would be more difficult because the magnet has to turn at the correct speed for about 2 seconds for current to build up the electrical circuit .

Low-Q

I will make one with 10 pcs. 100uF capacitors in parallell (1000uF) and use a regular crossover coil for loudspeakers. 2.5mH air core. Our coils have less than 0.3 ohm resistance, which is good for a 2.5mH air core coil. Lucky for me, I work as an engineer in a loudspeaker company (dynaBel AS in Norway - this is happy me:http://www.dynabel.no/vidar-web.jpg, and have access to any parts needed to make a device such as this :)

Vidar.

LightRider

From the article... (final conception)

6000 RPM (magnet) mecanic part => 100Hz electric part

Coil:
1.0 mm^2 (wire)
n = 1600 turn
diamater of the coil 0.09m
length of the coil 0.01m

Capacitor:
0.23 E-6

magnet:
diam.: 2x (0.039m)
lenght: 0.01m
0.7 tesla
(iron +/- 7.8E3 density... unity ?)

LightRider

(information come form the source code)