Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric

[petar113507]

@ B-rads and all

I noticed in the link provided above  that he did the experiment in a (glass) quartz tube.

Could it be possible the quartz tube accidently had an effect on the process?

Another question:
If you grind a larger crystal, does that result in smaller crystals? Or is the structure broken when you do that?
Example: grinding quartz sand to powder, would that powder still be small crystals?

No, quartz would not work for this specific process unless you had precalculated the size nescessary to make it "active" at a certain frequency -- I.E. near the resonant frequencey of the crystals.  If you were to break down the crystals (grind them up) you would need to have a very consistent "grind".

I think he gave us the process for making the zinc crystals -- because it is this process which produces crystals of the exact size and all (ballpark-ish) active around a certain frequency.  The range we're looking for is between 42-45 KHZ (as mentioned before).  This was already precalculated for us. 

Powerme alluded to the other ways to make crystals with similar properties, however, I have not yet personally been far enough along in this project to have the incentive to research alternatives to make the crystals. (as I would like to have a working prototype first)

Quartz, while pizeoelectric, would require more modification, or require more of an understanding of the zinc crystals we are working with, and the properties that we aim to acheive with them.

==Romo

[petar113507]

Plenty of power.  It melted a hole in the side of the rubbermaid container at the focal point when I had it on its side.  It produces plenty of fog.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYO18DyR-Jc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK01ezJlLXA

Are you tuning your setup at all Rad-hho?  I have found that pointing two pizeo's plugged in (1.7 mhz) at each other, can create quite a focused point.  It makes one of my masonry jars slightly ring.

Also, I'm not sure how powerme could tell the frequencey with the baloon.  I think, however -- he may have just been looking for a "sweet spot" -- kind of like how you've gotta tune bedini's ssg's for optimal charging of batteries.  You have to play with the coils to get them to produce the optimum result.  That is at least, what stuck with me after reading that I will use.

Also, is anyone willing to buy pizeo's from china, or through resale (from me)?  I would not be doing this for my own convienence nor profit -- this would be to get all of us to have similarly functioning pizeoelectrics.  If I order tonight (after a phone call), it should arrive in about 3 weeks to a month.

Perhaps this collaboration effort will be more convincing, or stir more interest if I have the "tuning"/oscilator circut parts on hand as well.  If anyone is interested, throw me a PM so I can know how many bulk extra to buy. 

==Romo

[RAD-HHO]

Are you tuning your setup at all Rad-hho?  I have found that pointing two pizeo's plugged in (1.7 mhz) at each other, can create quite a focused point.  It makes one of my masonry jars slightly ring.

Also, I'm not sure how powerme could tell the frequencey with the baloon.  I think, however -- he may have just been looking for a "sweet spot" -- kind of like how you've gotta tune bedini's ssg's for optimal charging of batteries.  You have to play with the coils to get them to produce the optimum result.  That is at least, what stuck with me after reading that I will use.

Also, is anyone willing to buy pizeo's from china, or through resale (from me)?  I would not be doing this for my own convienence nor profit -- this would be to get all of us to have similarly functioning pizeoelectrics.  If I order tonight (after a phone call), it should arrive in about 3 weeks to a month.

Perhaps this collaboration effort will be more convincing, or stir more interest if I have the "tuning"/oscilator circut parts on hand as well.  If anyone is interested, throw me a PM so I can know how many bulk extra to buy. 

==Romo

No, I am not tuning here.  This is using all the standard equipment that came with the ultrasonic mister.  The 1.7 Mhz one I bought locally, the 2 Mhz one is one of three I ordered from China. Power me said I should have lots of hho @ 1.7 Mhz, so I thought I would verify the 1.7 Mhz and see if I had any hho.

[superman9976]

Hello all,
I wanted to run this replacement nebulizer board by you guys.  I received this from a friend he says its about $22 a piece and you need to order 4 minimum.  It looks to have a really nice controller on it that could be easily modified.  And 4 of them put out quite a bit.  Take a look.

[The Power To Be]

RAD,
sorry, these foggers are all built differently, lower frequency if need be. 100khz - 1.5mhz is the range used by Noritada for ultrasonic HHO production.

Don't believe everything that I say or anyone else, observe your own result, that's the only real truth.