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Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric

Started by The Power To Be, February 17, 2011, 06:11:02 AM

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altrez

Quote from: Slovenia on April 15, 2011, 07:07:52 PM
Hi Altrez,

Great to hear from you!!  Thanks for your willingness to help.  Thanks also for the hints you gave in the past.

Right now I'm just wanting information on how to properly set up and assemble the pierce circuit and joule thief circuit.  I have studied the two circuits but my expertise is not in electronics and I am at a loss from the standpoint of which specific subcomponents to purchase for both these circuits.  There are a wide range of choices for many of these subcomponents and I wanted to make sure that I didn't order the wrong parts.  Any suggestion on proper subcomponents and setup of the two circuits would be very helpful.  I'm planning on using the 45 Khz transducers and need to be able to adjust them to somewhere at or about 43 Khz and also I want my voltage increased from 12 vdc to 36 vdc. 

Anyway, I appreciate your willingness to share with me.

Best Regards,
Slovenia
There is a very easy way to do this an that is with a function generator. They are very cheep on ebay. The next is to build the "pierce circuit " an for that I will need you to post a schematic an I will order the parts build it then post a video on how to do it. Remember this, there are  a lot of different ways to reach the same goal we are looking for a sine wave once we have that it can be replicated a 1000 different ways.

Look at a Function Generator! Its very practical an can be used for lots of free energy study.

-Altrez

altrez

Quote from: superman9976 on April 15, 2011, 07:13:54 PM
Hey Altrez,

Could you answer some of my questions from my last post?  I have an electrical engineer friend but he doesn't have at the time in the world right now.  He is working on the RF project from energetic as he has time.  I have two books complete wireless design and practical electronics for inventors that I am using for reference.  There some formulas and some schematics in there I could post a picture of the schematic and you see what you think if you wanna take a look.  I am not sure if the components they list are thee components to use or not. 
Appreciate it,
Chris

Of course I will help you please post any schematic / formulas you may have and I will study it an post any solutions that I may find here.

Take Care,

-Altrez

Slovenia

Thanks Altrez!!!  Your the man.

Here are the schematics I have for the Pierce Circuit & JT Circuit:

Pierce Circuit Schematic:
http://i55.tinypic.com/jzd4r7.png

Joule Thief Circuit Schematic:
http://i52.tinypic.com/30tgj2p.png

I was especially concerned about possibly selecting the wrong crystal oscillator, caps, toroid ferrite ring.

A toroid builder told me to use 24 awg wire for winding the toroid but that's the only hint he gave me.  He also said the crystal oscillator needed to be right but he didn't give me a recommendation as to which one to use.

Here is what I know:

Pierce Circuit Schematic:
http://i55.tinypic.com/jzd4r7.png

Parts for Pierce Circuit:
1) Crystal = (X1) (Crystal Oscillator)??
Which crystal oscillator would be optimal?

2) Resistor = (R1)
You already recommended "Pots" in place of resistors.

3) NOT Gate = (U1) **Inverter Function** ??
Which NOT Gate would be optimal?

4) Two Capacitors = (C1) & (C2) ??
Which Capacitors would be optimal?

5) Two Earth Grounds


Joule Thief Circuit Scematic:
http://i52.tinypic.com/30tgj2p.png

Parts for Joule Thief:
1) 2n3904 ??
Is this the proper transistor to use?

2) diode??
Which diode to use?

3) Cell (12 volt car battery)

4) Toroid?? 
What size ferrite ring should I use?
What size wire would be optimal?
Approximately how many windings on the ferrite core?

5) 1K Resistor
You already recommended "Pots" in place of resistors.

Thanks again Altrez!!!


Quote from: altrez on April 15, 2011, 07:39:16 PM
Of course I will help you please post any schematic / formulas you may have and I will study it an post any solutions that I may find here.

Take Care,

-Altrez

eisnad karm

@Slovenia
I admire your efforts and it is pleasing that you are now being offered help by others.
I do not have the qualifications in electronics to be able to contribute.
My fears were that there was a lot of non clearly defined information. At the very start of this thread I read up on all the reference links and could not see anything there that made sense..in some cases quite the oppersite. It like you are given hints but nothing concrete..lots of verbage. So I was never clear of the foundation this was based on.
The plot seems to keep changing. This proberbly exposes many of my short commings.
However rather than be the critic (and I am certainly not critical of you and many other here) I will just keep a watching brief and wish you all the best.
mark

Slovenia

Actually, Power To Be has told us a lot of stuff in many different threads.  He has given us a lot of very fine information.  I believe from the bottom of my heart that his system works, or I would not have thrown myself into this project the way I have.  Anyway, most of the info is on the Energetic Forum site in many different threads.  I don't know if you looked at any of my archived pdf files or not.  They make it much easier to follow and find important details laid out by Power To Be.  My favorite file I put together is "Compilation of Power1 Posts" and it has been downloaded 169 times.  Anyway, this file has all the threads where Power To Be commented on something of interest to this project.

Compilation of Power1 Posts (Link)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/52177573/Compilation-of-Power1-Posts


Quote from: eisnad karm on April 15, 2011, 09:10:35 PM
@Slovenia
I admire your efforts and it is pleasing that you are now being offered help by others.
I do not have the qualifications in electronics to be able to contribute.
My fears were that there was a lot of non clearly defined information. At the very start of this thread I read up on all the reference links and could not see anything there that made sense..in some cases quite the oppersite. It like you are given hints but nothing concrete..lots of verbage. So I was never clear of the foundation this was based on.
The plot seems to keep changing. This proberbly exposes many of my short commings.
However rather than be the critic (and I am certainly not critical of you and many other here) I will just keep a watching brief and wish you all the best.
mark