Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric

[eisnad karm]

@slovenia
many thanks for the links I will enjoy reading them
Mark

[altrez]

Thanks Altrez!!!  Your the man.

Here are the schematics I have for the Pierce Circuit & JT Circuit:

Pierce Circuit Schematic:
http://i55.tinypic.com/jzd4r7.png

Joule Thief Circuit Schematic:
http://i52.tinypic.com/30tgj2p.png

I was especially concerned about possibly selecting the wrong crystal oscillator, caps, toroid ferrite ring.

A toroid builder told me to use 24 awg wire for winding the toroid but that's the only hint he gave me.  He also said the crystal oscillator needed to be right but he didn't give me a recommendation as to which one to use.

Here is what I know:

Pierce Circuit Schematic:
http://i55.tinypic.com/jzd4r7.png

Parts for Pierce Circuit:
1) Crystal = (X1) (Crystal Oscillator)??
Which crystal oscillator would be optimal?

2) Resistor = (R1)
You already recommended "Pots" in place of resistors.

3) NOT Gate = (U1) **Inverter Function** ??
Which NOT Gate would be optimal?

4) Two Capacitors = (C1) & (C2) ??
Which Capacitors would be optimal?

5) Two Earth Grounds


Joule Thief Circuit Scematic:
http://i52.tinypic.com/30tgj2p.png

Parts for Joule Thief:
1) 2n3904 ??
Is this the proper transistor to use?

2) diode??
Which diode to use?

3) Cell (12 volt car battery)

4) Toroid?? 
What size ferrite ring should I use?
What size wire would be optimal?
Approximately how many windings on the ferrite core?

5) 1K Resistor
You already recommended "Pots" in place of resistors.

Thanks again Altrez!!!

Lets start with the JT.

1. The transistor should be matched for your input voltage try this with a heat sink http://www.taydaelectronics.com/servlet/the-46/15A-fdsh-60V-2-2N-2N3055/Detail

2. The LED would not be used in this application for light. You are using the output to feed the amp.

3. Start with an adjustable power source an use your scope to watch the output.

4. The Toroid http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G16460 use 24 Gage hook up wire, the number of turns would need to be calculated but I say start with 8 and look at the output with a scope. 

5. Yes use a potentiometer with a scope on the output to fine tune.

Lets get this part done then we can move on.


-Altrez

[Slovenia]

Thanks Altrez!!!  Sounds very good.

Lets start with the JT.

1. The transistor should be matched for your input voltage try this with a heat sink http://www.taydaelectronics.com/servlet/the-46/15A-fdsh-60V-2-2N-2N3055/Detail

2. The LED would not be used in this application for light. You are using the output to feed the amp.

3. Start with an adjustable power source an use your scope to watch the output.

4. The Toroid http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G16460 use 24 Gage hook up wire, the number of turns would need to be calculated but I say start with 8 and look at the output with a scope. 

5. Yes use a potentiometer with a scope on the output to fine tune.

Lets get this part done then we can move on.


-Altrez

[Slovenia]

Hi Altrez,

Is a diode not necessary in the JT circuit?  Thanks!

Best Regards,
Slovenia

[superman9976]

Here are the pics and formulas I have:

http://www.filedropper.com/circuitspics

if that doesnt work I know it takes a while to show up.