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Shorting coil gives back more power

Started by romerouk, February 18, 2011, 09:51:45 PM

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i_ron

Quote from: giantkiller on March 15, 2011, 04:17:24 PM
@l_ron,
Thanks for the zero crossing circuit.
I posted 555s because this is a predominant item in most inventories. Was just trying to accomodate quick prototyping at no monetary outlay.

I interpreted your response to the Falstad script as 'My bad'.

If anybody was offended I apologize.

Apologies accepted. The zero crossing was a published circuit to which I provided the link. The one shot and gated oscillator are standard circuits.

You had said you were going to put this into Falstad with 555's and then gave the code... fine, but then when the schematic was posted some time later, credit was given to Falstad. That is what I felt was wrong.

One of the problems in using 555's for this circuit is they require a negative going trigger. Whereas the 4047 can trigger on either a negative or a positive logic, while requiring only one cap and one resistor, and a fraction of the drive current. Same with the 4093.  But then, people love their 555's

Ok, on with the show

Ron


romerouk

Quote from: giantkiller on March 15, 2011, 12:42:54 PM
@Romerouk,
Thanks for the explanation. I kind of see what you are talking about.
Just a suggestion. If you could use windows paint program to just draw blocks over lapping. This would make any explanation more clear then you can focus on specificity quicker. I tend to try to over mentalize and get the wrong idea. No different than most of us.  :D

I use Visio. That lets you then move items individually to accomodate any adjustmentment.
Here is how I have Magnacoasters coil.

Feynman

@Romerouk, all

OKay so that diagram makes sense, but what are the winding directions, and do they matter?   And that winding looks CCW with respect to the left of the diagram, but why is the output wire coming off the end?

Wouldn't a CCW winding go down the core to the end, then come back say 20% of the core, then be taken off as output lead?

What is the core material?  (Ferrite?  Powdered Iron?   Rusty Nail?)

I see a 1cm gap to the right of the image, but what about to the left of the image?  Is there a gap there, or does the core touch the magnet on the left?

What is the diameter of the core?

How many total leads come off the windings on the core (2 leads?  4 leads?)?

What is the strength and composition of the magnets?

etc

Thanks,
Feynman


bolt

"Bolt, where do you get the figure of 5?  From what I've heard , or what's in the documents I've managed to scrounge up, indicates that Boyce's device could potentially be really high COP if done properly.  I'll go with a COP = 5 though since you seem to have more information than I do."

Watch the Bob Boyce DVD/Vid on google about his stuff he mentions in the vid that his 3 phase toroid produces a total DC to Gas COP of about 4-5.

With the exception of trying a few different core materials the construction using special silver litz wire and covered in bees wax etc is just an expensive waste of time.  In fact i will go so far to say you can get excellent VARS and ferromagnetic resonance by pinging a standard 3 phase transformer ..and the bigger the better. When its close for too heavy to lift its big enough. A 50/60Hz transformer will tend to go into very high ferro-resonance around 150-600Hz with 5% duty cycle so look around there. It must be tuned VERY carefully using 450VAC motor run caps.

bolt

"I have been working on this setup since Richard posted his first results but still without having more than 1.7 -1.8 .
We need a bit more than 2 then we are in business."

Exactly, so you see as i mentioned just before in earlier post it is not so hard to attain a COP of 1.2-1.9 as can be done with many methods but breaking the looping barrier plus recover losses about a COP of 2.5 is a tough cookie!  You must get this by using caps and SS switches to pulse on off loads.

That said you have already made a good Energy Power Saving device for solar charging etc. and its OU but of course don't try and convince anyone thru measurements its just a waste of precious time and energy.