Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011

[Magluvin]

Hello guys,


And Magzy - I'm hoping that you'll do us the favour of posting your results here on those tests.  They're BRILLIANT.  Every bit of evidence helps.  And such a clean way of showing it.

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Hey Rose

I used the sim to predict what woopy got on the bench, so this is reliable as to outcome. =]

Here is the circuit in the sim and the code.

http://falstad.com/circuit/   for the applet

Copy code below and import into the applet from the file menu.

$ 1 5.0E-6 0.05817778142098084 50 5.0 43
s 384 80 448 80 0 1 true
v 448 352 448 80 0 0 40.0 1000.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
r 384 352 448 352 0 0.01
c 384 352 384 80 0 9.999999999999999E-6 0.0010000000000002418
r 384 80 304 80 0 2.0
l 304 80 224 80 0 0.22 9.31524329736314E-19
c 224 80 224 352 0 1.0E-5 0.0010000000000000425
d 224 352 304 352 1 0.805904783
s 304 352 384 352 0 1 true
d 304 352 304 256 1 0.805904783
w 336 144 384 80 0
w 304 256 304 176 0
w 304 176 336 144 0
o 6 1 0 291 0.009765625 9.765625E-5 0 -1
o 3 1 0 291 0.009765625 9.765625E-5 1 -1

Close the switch on the right till the cap is fully charged to 1000v.

Then close the switch on the bottom till the desired cutoff is reached.

You can lower the speed of the sim at the upper right slider so you can see in the first scope shot when to release the switch at a particular voltage.

The second scope shot shows the 1000v cap and what is left in it after the cutoff.

Just hit reset at the top right to start over to clear the cap values to empty.   =]


You will be able to see the femf caused by the flywheel effect. It may seem like the flywheel spins for a long time. The sim is running slow enough that we get to see this action.

Bemf happens very quick. So it is a fresh thing to see the time that the freewheel goes in this application.

Tesla was the man.  ;]


I think having the 1kv really gets the wheel going as compared to 10v.

I did a 21.6v cutoff,  and got 203.36v out.  The 1kv cap always equals 1kv - cutoff.  It really gets hard to believe there is a 50% loss happening. The sim does not show a loss such as this. In other tests that I did last night.  What if the calculations are not presenting what really is?   hmmm. We may have a win win situation. Me thinks it.

1  10uf cap at 10v     10v/10ohm load=1A  10vx1A=10W

2 caps in parallel,   20uf at 5v  5v/5ohm=1A  5vx1A=5W  but with 2 times the capacitance.  I see no loss here. Not 50%  Crazy aint it?   

So why 50% loss from battery to cap as the physics site stated?   

Yesterday we seemed to have a huge obstacle of physics, but i think we are clear of that now. I think we are in a much better position than we were last night.   


=]

Mags

[Magluvin]

Hey Rose

Before we were cutting off the source when the receiver cap reached the source voltage. We are now cutting off at a much lower voltage, and the gain is apparent more than before.

We are going with woopys method here of using a cap as the source. Both the source cap and receiver are 10uf for this test.

The source is charged to 1000v, for purposes of Big Show.
And we have the recycle diode in place in the middle that continues the cap charging after we release the source cap at our desired voltage.

1 The 1000v cap is charged

2 The switch is closed

3 We wait till the receiver cap reaches 10v  yes 10v

4 we open the switch and the recycle diode takes over to continue charging the receiver with the flywheel.

The outcome

The 1000v source cap is now 990v

The receiver, being cut from the source at 10v, reached 132v!!!

And this is the best part. We only have to replace 10v worth into the source cap to fill it up again. Not replace a complete 1000v worth at 10uf. Is that a savings?
I think so. It may be easier than if empty. Dunno. 



Mags

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Hey Rose

Before we were cutting off the source when the receiver cap reached the source voltage. We are now cutting off at a much lower voltage, and the gain is apparent more than before.

We are going with woopys method here of using a cap as the source. Both the source cap and receiver are 10uf for this test.

The source is charged to 1000v, for purposes of Big Show.
And we have the recycle diode in place in the middle that continues the cap charging after we release the source cap at our desired voltage.

1 The 1000v cap is charged

2 The switch is closed

3 We wait till the receiver cap reaches 10v  yes 10v

4 we open the switch and the recycle diode takes over to continue charging the receiver with the flywheel.

The outcome

The 1000v source cap is now 990v

The receiver, being cut from the source at 10v, reached 132v!!!

And this is the best part. We only have to replace 10v worth into the source cap to fill it up again. Not replace a complete 1000v worth at 10uf. Is that a savings?
I think so. It may be easier than if empty. Dunno. 

Mags

Golly Magzy.  This is FANTASTIC.  Very well done to you both.   Needless to say I couldn't do that simulator thing.  But I'm hoping someone will be able to help me at the weekend.  You guys are really something else.  Very well done indeed.  It's made my day.

I'm looking forward to the systematic destruction of all that supporating drivel that leaks out of some competing forums that's meant to represent what?  Intelligent analysis?  What will their final excuses be when we've disproved EVERY objection?  That will be interesting.  I am ready to put money on it that the protest will NEVER STOP.  LOL.   

Just seen that Americans pride themselves on their tolerance of the new idea.  In fact, the top players at Google prefer to live in America to dodge some of that European Cynicism.  What was said was interesting.  "A new idea is very vulnerable.  It can easily be snuffed out".  That was on Stephen Fry's program on his trip around America.  My sentiments exactly.   Strangely - the detractors to all this 'new technology' here are mostly American.  Actually maybe not.  There are also some Canadians.   

Anyway.  Again.  Very well done Magzy.  I had a shrewd idea that you'd get the answer. 

Kindest regards,
Rosie

[Magluvin]

Hey Rose

Thanks.  Now we just find the cutoff point that gives us the best freewheel charge to the receiver cap, with the least amount of energy used from the source cap, then crunch the numbers. It shouldnt be that hard to figure. In the caps, it is what it is. =]

I was happy with this improvement. I think the key is, the 1000v in the 10uf cap. And the receiver cap is 10uf. We only use a small portion of the 1kv source cap. But the 1000v kick got the inductor really spinnin.  =]  Now to fill in the 10v on the source cap that we used, the supply that provides it, doesnt have to work hard at al to do a top off. So the first charging of the source cap is the most input that should be seen, then its topper time, smooth.

So figure, we took the source away at 10v on the receiver, and it went to 132v after?  Is that an increase of 1320% of from our flywheel?   

I think we just might have enough out to run a supply, I have one, to keep the source cap loaded for cheap input from the receiver.

The circuit to control cutoff will need to be next, as in the sim, we have slowed it down and we manually hit the switches with the mouse.
It worked well for testing. =]

ok  sleeps    night  Rose   ;]

Magzzzz

[Rosemary Ainslie]

LOL  Do you still get any sleep Magzy?  Good night indeed.



Rosie