Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Hi all.  Hope I got it.  The fire dragon bit the croc.

[hartiberlin]

2)  I notice that the VV red multiply trace seems to never go above the zero line, yet the "battery" trace is always above zero and the other argument of the multiply, the shunt trace, goes both above and below zero.  So there are clearly times when both numbers being multiplied are positive, yet the product is always negative.  This doesn't make any sense.

Yes, looks like the scope is set wrongly or is broken.

The red line should also go symmetrically around the zero line as the
orange shunt voltage line.

So the Multiplication channel is displaying wrong values.

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Yes, looks like the scope is set wrongly or is broken.

The red line should also go symmetrically around the zero line as the
orange shunt voltage line.

So the Multiplication channel is displaying wrong values.

Stefan - WHAT are you trying to say?  The math trace is the PRODUCT OF THE CSR AND THE BATTERY VOLTAGE.  It is showing that product over a 500 000 sample range.  It is absolutely consistent with the graph off the spreadsheet.  I have NO IDEA what you're objecting to.  Perhaps I should have shown the math trace more enlarged.  It most certainly 'goes around' the zero crossing if that's what's worrying you.

Why do I get the impression that you're supporting the vapid objections that Cheeseburger keeps posing?  The settings on the scope meter are ASBSOLUTELY  CORRECT.  Rather ask what they are than STATE that they're wrong.  Next time I'll take the trouble to down load all those settings and show them to you.  Good gracious.  It's one thing to check if they're right or wrong.  It's an entirely different thing to STATE that they're wrong.  If you know this much then you must state WHERE they're wrong.  It's Poynty's and Cheeseburgers enduring hope that there's a fault with the measurements.  Do you share this hope?  If so, as mentioned - I be very happy to disabuse you of any such hopes.  It's very easy to show all the settings on that little scopemeter.   When I've had those batteries checked out I will do so.

Again.
Rosemary

Added.

And may I add that IF they are WRONG then the TEKTRONIX is ALSO ALWAYS WRONG.  Its numbers were always consistent with the LeCroy.  And I doubt that either company would then be quite so ready to offer the guarantees of accuracy - if they could so easily be WRONG.   It seems that all measurements are WRONG and ONLY your 'impressions' are right?  It's curious.

Yet again
Rosemary

[Rosemary Ainslie]

And may I remind you that the whole purpose of that exercise was to PROVE that the voltage across the battery retains that same really robust oscillation that Poynty and you and Humbugger and just about all the detractors ASSURED the readers here - would - IN FACT - FLATLINE??  I think Poynty's term was 'ripple' which was, at best, a rather inadequate euphemism.   It most certainly DOES NOT FLATLINE and there is NO EVIDENT RIPPLE. 

I'm rather looking forward to an acknowledgement of this fact.  And I'm rather disappointed that it's not been forthcoming.  I've always claimed a real danger in posting on these forums.  One hopes for an impartial evaluation.  What I see is anxious denial wherever you so called experts can manage it and then - based statements that are really easy to disprove.  This claim of a 'ripple' is just one example.

May I again draw your attention to the phase angles of those voltages.  If you dig deep you'll resolve that 'zero crossing' at that point.

Rosemary

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Guys - I get it that we're all looking to find some means to defeat this energy crisis.  We're looking to the final depletion of all that oil that's fuelled our 1st world countries - certainly since the Industrial Revolution.  Its been the abundant source of energy that's provided our middle classes, globally with a rich and profligate excess of energy and wealth.  And without all that cheap fuel then we're looking to face up to certain really unwelcome austerities.  It will certainly introduce some chaotic instability in our financial and - probably also - in our social structures.

That's what these forums are all about - I would have thought.  That's on one level.  On the other level is the 'gathering' of some really good minds to see where and if we can exceed all those traditional constraints.  We all sort of share a quest to test some fundamental restrictions on the transfer of energy.

Then too we've also assumed that our forum owners are equally anxious to find such solutions.  Energetic Forum have dedicated whole chapters to this, as has Overunity Research and here on Stefan's forum.  But I wonder too - at the sincerity of that reach.  Does energetic forum simply advance the sale of some really bad science dressed up as some kind of esoteric answers to satisfy an eccentric fringe of society - and then enjoy that revenue?  And could it be that OUR.com is simply dedicated to denying the evidence of overunity - because that, in truth - is all it ever does?  And how committed is Stefan to finding solutions - when he too is so quick to deny the evidence on really, really thin grounds.  I think what I'm asking is this.  Stefan enjoys advertising revenues.  Would there be a continuing need for these or any forums if Overunity was proved?  Done and dusted?  I'm not so sure.

So.  I think the time has come that we put this sincerity to the test.  IF we are to take Stefan's credentials at face value then I'm entirely satisfied that he would be well able to measure and assess just about any experiment in order to evaluate its efficiency.  And IF he then finds any value that is, indeed, in excess of unity - then he would also be well able to promote some kind of application to capitalise on that technology.  More to the point.  One would expect him to bend over backwards to advance the use of that technology.  And in the light of the dire need for cheap and clean and green - then he would also be strongly committed to doing his damndest to make very sure that everyone within reach would hear of this.

Therefore -  this is a public CHALLENGE to him to get into a plane and come to Cape Town South Africa - and CHECK OUT OUR EXPERIMENTAL EVIDENCE.  The cost of that plane ticket will be a drop in the ocean compared to the potential return he should be able to make if there is even a 'grain' of truth in our claims.  As it is we've waived any rights to any kind of 'reward'.  Perhaps he can fund this from this budget.  This offer is made on the full understanding that he is free to progress this technology in any way he requires and that no-one on our team will challenge this right.  On the contrary.  We're rather anxious to promote it.  In the event that he takes this trip and then discovers that there is NO TRUTH in our evidence - then I will personally, here, undertake to refund him the cost of the plane trip. 

So.  Stefan Hartman - that's my offer.  It is all here for the viewing.  Come and see it.  What I've reported on these threads and on ALL these forums - IS PRECISELY THAT WE HAVE GOT INFINITE COP and that it is experimentally measurable and repeatable.  All you need to do is check out if we're telling the truth.  And if you are sincerely interested in advancing 'clean green' then I'm reasonably certain that you'd want to check out the facts.

May I remind you.  We are not talking about little dribbles of wattage.  It is EASILY able to produce enough energy to make applications immediately viable.  And you can come out ANY TIME YOU LIKE.  I would be able to accommodate you and your girlfriend - most comfortably - and you would then be able to spend as long as you want over that apparatus to determine its efficiency for yourself.

What I find absolutely reprehensible is that you continue with this DENIAL where you affront - not only my own veracity - but the competence of our team members.

Rosemary