New attempt for Thestatika...

[gauschor]

I make a new attempt in finding a way to convert electrostatic energy into usable energy. I think I have omitted an important detail. I don't know if it sounds ridiculous or not but the reason for that is that I got 2 electric shocks during my experiments a year ago. Both were different to the standard electroshocks gained from the Wimshurst device, in a sense that I felt that there was more power / amperage within them. I will explain in short:

The picture below explains the basic construction: as usual the collectors of the Wimshurst produce small currents within the (Tesla) coil. On the smaller coil I get a smaller voltage (I don't know exactly how much, I am only guessing a potential of ~300-500 Volts... but the gauge cannot read it correctly). What is clear is that there is almost no amperage, and you will feel nothing but a small piercing pain if you directly touch the ends of the small coil.

However I experienced that when I put in a Cap of 200V 0.1µV (really cheap ones) and then touch the contact points (producing a "bridge") I get a huge electric shock. This shock was in a strength much more powerful than any electrostatic shocks I ever received (which were quite a lot, including ones from Leyden Jars). It was a shock like you get from a cattle fence - which has more amperage than your usual Wimshurst device.
The second experience was an electric shock I got from a simple 8V to 230V transformer from which the battery was already removed! The strength was nearly the same as the one I got from the Cap mentioned above. After opening the closed transformer I have seen that an exact same 200V 0.1µV Cap was built into the transformer to "smooth" the current. Obviously I also got the electric shock solely from the power in the cap.

Now my calculation was as follows:
The Cap has 200V and 0.1µF which is 200*0.1/1000000=0.00002 C. I was assuming that the electric shock had a duration of 1 millisecond therefore the amperage was 0.00002/(1/1000)=0.02A = 20mA. So I had received an electric shock of 200V with an amperage of 20mA.

Today I found out that this small amperage can already be dangerous for you, so please be careful when experimenting with these small "toy"-caps.

The point however is: the impulse of 200V@20mA is strong enough to power another transformer: if the 200V of the cap is reached (which I assume goes very fast) the cap must be discharged quickly and send an impulse to the second transformer coil. It should be something like a sawtooth behavior. The output from the 2nd transformer shall be targeted at about 20V@200mA - or something like that. From this transformer a possible accumulator or a 1 Farad Capacitor with appropriate voltage might be charged.

Btw. I forgot to add you might also need to switch in some rectifiers if necessary (maybe after the Tesla coil and before the 200V cap, and another rectifier after the second transformer and before the accumulator).
Also I am not sure if the Teslacoil is really needed, maybe the Wimshurst can charge the 200V cap faster without it and only with the help of a rectifiers. The 200V cap must be charged and discharged at least 50 timesper second. Also I don't think that the spark gap is the best solution to send impulses to the second transformer, because the impulse will lose some of its power. Maybe some people know an electric circuit to create "Sawtooth oscillation" behavior. Since it is only a 200V capacitor the gap of the spark opening shall be less than 1mm, (if using a spark gap).

My Wimshurst device is currently broken because the discs were too wobbly, therefore construction and verifying the experiment will take some time. I just wanted to through in my thoughts in case others want to throw in some opinions or critics.

[gauschor]

Just updating. The wimshurst was built quickly, unfortunately the following experiments didn't show any sign of usable power. I combined the output to a JouleThief but the amperage was too low or the spikes too short to get the JT run (even when using transformers, rectifiers, caps).

I guess one can only understand the Testatika if one understands the "Testatika Principle Experiment" first. I eventually realized it makes no sense to start with any other experiments. Unfortunately this "Principle experiment" couldn't be reproduced either by various experimentors. Obviously even there Baumann used his 2 "magical" grid caps, where we don't know what is inside. Any sketches of what could be within these caps from 3rd parties such as Albert Hauser or Paul Potter are only guesses and speculation. This makes it basically useless 

Isn't it nice how mankind isn't ready for energy generators like this (the words from the Methernita...) when Atomic Power Plants explode? I hope they feel good about hiding their invention...

[Low-Q]

Too bad that nature (as we know it) wants to do nothing if it isn't told to do something (energy input). I wonder when mankind are able to replicate small "big bangs" - the reason why energy was created in the first place.
I guess we can agree one thing: Energy can be created (because we do have energy from somewhere), and probably it can be destroied also (consumed by dark energy...). We just don't know how this happens.

Vidar

[heretic]

A few thoughts on the Testatika machine. Obviously it is an updated and modified wimshurst generator. Please correct me if I'm wrong but, the Leyden jars are charge collectors, one positive and one negative. I don't think that the  Joule thief is really necessary. I think that if you send the charge from the jars through a series of voltage doublers and/or step up transformers and or high voltage caps before it's pumped into the first tesla coil which should transmit the charge to a second tesla coil which is modified and tuned to act as a step down transformer you should be able to get usable power. A feedback loop is used to power the small electric motor that spins the wheel. The wheel can also be spun with permanent magnets and/or electromagnets. Unfortunately I don't have the time or resources necessary to test this theory, but I think that this or something similar to it is what they did to the wimshurst generator. I think that a lot of people spend a lot of time trying to be smart thinking that it all has to be complicated. And couldn't you use caps to collect the charges instead of Leyden jars? Perhaps opamps and/or tank circuits are in use here as well. Maybe I'm overthinking it as well because I work on the KISS principle, but it seems to me that this is something to ponder.

[heretic]

If the drawing you posted is the circuit you're working with, which is supposed to be a wimshurst generator, it's never going to get much more than what you already have for the following reasons. If you look at a wimshurst, you'll notice that there are 2 Leyden jars, 1 to collect the negative charge, 1 to collect the positive charge. Are we good so far? These jars act like capacitors, collecting energy to saturation and discharge. This high voltage charge is your starting point. By high voltage we mean kilovolt range before it can be stepped down into something usable. According to your drawing, you are putting half of the miniscule discharge off the wheel into a coil? and then running it through a step down transformer. This is where you are in error. You need to take the charge from both positive and negative sides of the wheel to get usable power. It looks to me like you are getting maybe 2kv off the coil and running it through a stepdown transformer, and you'll never get much useful energy out off that setup. The Joule Thief is not necessary, and in all actuality, neither is the tesla coil. Take the charge from the jars/high voltage caps and seriously step it up into the kv range by running it through a series of voltage doublers and/ or stepup transformers before you step it down. This is what the testatika device does. If you look at that device , you'll notice the wheel and the Leyden jars. Sound familiar? Permanent magnets, electromagnets with a feedback loop for power, or a small electric motor, again with the feedback loop, is what is used to spin the wheel. All that device is, is an updated and modified ( solid state) wimshurst.