The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

[e2matrix]

One thing with trying an inverter at first is, we need to know the impedance at 60hz of the primary. This will determine the amount of idle power in the primary.  Some here like sky will need to experiment first, as his way is not as prescribed from the onset, and probably most are looking to eliminate the toaster. lol  =]

So if what you build is different in any way from Gabriels, testing should be done at low power to be sure of what the idle, no load current in the primary will be. Just to be careful and try not to suffer any losses, like a $20 inverter, maybe 2 of them, who knows.  This can be discouraging.

And Skys setup may work better at other freq, probably higher. Just a guess.

Mags

You may have a point although most small inverters I've used will just shut down if you put too much load on them.  I think most have some protection circuit.  But it's something to be aware of.

[WindsorFarmer]

You may have a point although most small inverters I've used will just shut down if you put too much load on them.  I think most have some protection circuit.  But it's something to be aware of.

I'm looking at the diagram on page 5 here, posted by Kampen.  Seems to me that the surge protector should plug directly into the kill-o-watt meter.  Then the toaster would have one lead in left part of one outlet of the surge protector, and the other lead attached to one lead of the primary coil.  Then then other lead of the primary coil will plug into the right part of the surge protector.  Series.  Does that not accomplish the inductance needed?  Why have it that particular way in Kampen's configuration?

On Page 1, the circuit in the original diagram has one lead of the primary bypassing both the surge protector and the k-o-w meter, while the other lead connects with the neutral of the toaster in the surge protector.   

If we are trying to get a certain level of inductance, what is the best method?

Sorry, it's been a long time since I worked with circuit diagrams and even longer since I used the theories.

May I will look into making a IC controller.

Mike

[Mavendex]

Hi folks, I read the tesla patent #us433702 that might be similar to the gabriel device. Tesla says in his transformer, the outer primary shell creates a phase lag or time lag between the primary coil and secondary coil.
Kind of reminds of Thanes rotating generators where at certain speed a lag occurs, causing a repulsive kick to his moving magnets instead of a slow down.
This might explain why a load is not reflected back to the primary in gabriels device. Maybe the higher permeability inner toroid only helps to lengthen this phase or time lag between primary and secondary coil.

Also Tesla points out how his primary ferromagnetic shell will only transfer induction to secondary, if primary shell is saturated enough.
I think this sheds more light on what may be happening.
Even in Thanes design, it could very well be that the larger more permeable secondary transformer legs, only help to create a greater phase, time lag so that the loaded secondary coils do not reflect back to primary coil.
Anyway, here is my finished small gabriel device. I placed two layers of the 24 gauge for the primary coil.
peace love light
Tyson

I'm interested to see what happened with the steel on steel guy? Any news?

[Magluvin]

Sky, you still with us?  =]

Mags

[SkyWatcher123]

Hi folks, well I tried using the inverter into a smaller transformer then into the gabriel primary. The inner secondary did power a small lightbulb i have, though my voltage open circuit on the secondary was only 4.6 volts, though i expected that.
This inverter powering the intermediary transformer is sucking way too many amps. My small 7ah, 12volt sla can't cope, maybe they are not able to hold a heavy load much anymore.
So I tried the 110vac directly from the inverter to the gabriel primary and i heard a sparking sound inside the toroid and quickly disconnected it.
So this means I may have to put a resistance in line like mav did. Though even if i had put a load on the secondary like light bulbs, i don't think my battery has the guts anymore to power any high loads.
So what to do, not sure.
peace love light
Tyson