The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

[SkyWatcher123]

Hi magluvin, I'm still around, was just testing another project.
Hi forest, thanks for sharing your setup so far, looks good.
I am wondering now if i should have wound my steel garden wire primary shell like Tesla and forest are doing it.
Though it would be difficult and there would be an open space on the inner part of toroid.
I think by threading the steel wire through the toroid, it caused the flux to not flow properly, maybe that's why Tesla specifically said 90 degrees to secondary wire.
Well i can unwind the outer primary and redo the steel wire shell and wire it around the circumference as Tesla says, what do you folks think.
peace love light
tyson

[Magluvin]

Hey Sky

I really liked your work on that, and Forests. ;]

But I think your right. I think yours was wound in a way that currents could flow in the outer core. Even though its not connected, it may be an issue.

I see that forest used tie wraps to enable the threading of the iron wire this way. Lil genius. ;]

I know its a lot of work and patients. After a while, it gets easier.

I would follow Teslas way, and also use as many layers as shown to fill the gaps.

Mags

[Magluvin]

Mags

Inner core made from 20m steel wire coated (garden), wound into toroid shape.
Next bifilar copper coil around. Next some layer of paper mass and electrical tap insulation. Next two layers of rings made from the same garden steel wire (coated).Next electrical tape and primary - ordinary coil wound around toroid.
At least a lot of fun and  time spent , a lot of hours winding that damn shell.

hey Forest

Your doing a great job making all wire cores. Looks like factory. ;]

I hope the bifi works well. And it gives you the alternative to just parallel the windings. So you get 2 choices of windings without rebuild. ;]

If you have a signal gen, you can find the resonant freq of each choice of winding. 

Some of the designs may have operational freq issues.
But all that needs to be done is find that freq and make circuitry to accommodate those frequencies. From there with data known, a new build can be figured for near 60hz operation.

Off topic a bit, but was just thinking while writing, I wonder how a ferromagnetic fluid core would work.

mags

[Magluvin]

Just thought of maybe a simpler way to build this thing.

Start with a rod core, for example 5in long 1in thick.
Wind the rod with the secondary.
Then use a pipe, say 2in dia 5in long.
Slide the sec with core in the pipe.
Close pipe ends, making sure the inner core touches the pipe ends.
Then wind the primary around the pipe.

As long as the sec field lines dont cross the primary windings, and stay in the core/pipe, it should work the same.

It would make things a lot easier and quicker.  ;]

Mags

[SkyWatcher123]

Hi magluvin, laying in bed yesterday last night i was thinking the exact same thing, using a solenoid type core, good idea to try.
Though I decided to start even smaller, to make changes quicker and easier to try different setups.
I have these small ferrite beads, about 1" diameter X 1-1/4" long.
I was thinking about first trying a threaded secondary through toroid bead, then winding 90 degree steel wire around that, then thread primary bifilar with option for joule thief pulsing.

Another setup to try is winding secondary around ferrite toroid bead, then thread steel wire 90 degrees through ferrite bead toroid, then wrap primary bifilar around primary shell.
Will not take long to test these ideas out and see the results.
peace love light
tyson