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The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

Started by Feynman, March 22, 2011, 04:07:09 PM

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e2matrix

Quote from: forest on May 01, 2011, 05:10:34 PM
so ? what do you think it could be ?

I don't have that info right off hand but if it is known you'd probably be able to get an answer from Bruce_TPU on his message thread ( http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=2300.1110 ).


friendenergy

Transformer and why the voltages aren't coupling correctly. From Wiki site

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer

The ideal transformer model assumes that all flux generated by the primary winding links all the turns of every winding, including itself. In practice, some flux traverses paths that take it outside the windings.[34] Such flux is termed leakage flux, and results in leakage inductance in series with the mutually coupled transformer windings.[33] Leakage results in energy being alternately stored in and discharged from the magnetic fields with each cycle of the power supply. It is not directly a power loss (see "Stray losses" below), but results in inferior voltage regulation, causing the secondary voltage to fail to be directly proportional to the primary, particularly under heavy load.[34] Transformers are therefore normally designed to have very low leakage inductance.

popolibero

Quote from: Mavendex on May 01, 2011, 04:54:10 PM
Hey Mags,

I was also thinking that after I get this secondary rewound if the unifilar doesn't work and we are still saturating badly

I was going to use the pc signal gen, into the power amp with 2 channels hook up the coil bifilar and run 60hz thru but try and use a canceling method with phasing just a little and turn my amp turns in to 1/2 amp turns or 1/4amp turns this way we can drive down consumption as well.

while we cut the tail off kick it square in the #^%%$

Mav

Hi Mav,

I think it's a good thing you try the signal generator through the amp to power it. This way you can avoid overpowering and saturating the shell, and even get rid of the toaster. All you need to do is start at a high freq where less power will be allowed into the primary because of increased coil impedance (maybe 1k or so) and tune your way down while monitoring input and output of the device. Of course you can also play with the amp output to adjust things. You may hit a point of best performance of the device.

regards,
Mario

importfanatik

Quote from: nul-points on May 02, 2011, 01:03:30 AM
i'm hoping that my comments will be seen by all as intended - constructive whilst
I totally read it that way. I hope I didnt come off as defensive, I didnt mean to.
Thanks again

taomaster

Hi all.

I've been following this with great interest. Unfortunately, I've not much experience with electrical device design and construction. I would build one with fairly good plans, but absent that I'll just observe until I can get something I know I can do (and won't kill myself trying!).

I think it's worthwhile to try to keep a summary of "what works" as people go along in this. So, towards that end, I've put together an MS Word doc that hopefully summarizes what we DO know. Yes, there is lot of info we still need here, but the missing info will be filled in as we go.

I do want to emphasize that this is "open source", so if anyone wants to add to the document or correct any errors, please do so and repost the revised document here. Also, please keep it in ".doc" format, so nearly everyone should be able to have no problems in opening it.

Thanks!

  -- Robert