The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

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It occured to me that this works but it is built backwards.
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having the primary as the central core and using the same materials ( such as metglass) in progressive layers outward with the next wind automatically due to the increase of the toroid size as it expands gives a path of less reluctance due to increase in size. Feedback anyone?

hi doc

we haven't seen any evidence yet that this works 

the only hard data so far does support asymmetric coupling - and that seems to favour the 'backward' direction:

[snip from reply #352]

importfanatik's results** certainly show an asymmetric coupling operation between outer and inner windings

BUT...

i) the asymmetric coupling effect appears to work better when using the inner winding as the primary
(only 2.63% voltage coupling outer to inner;
      6.02% voltage coupling inner to outer)

ii) the efficiency of the transformer appears to be so low that the overall loss greatly exceeds any advantage of the asymmetric coupling! 

(** at this drive level, at least)

see reply #347 for data from rep build (user 'importfanatik')


hope this helps
np


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[JouleSeeker]

  I'm also new to the OU forum, but have enjoyed posts here for some time.  Feynman started this thread and I have a lot of respect for him, and Mavendex and e2matrix and many others here.  (Are you out there, feynman ?-- hope your replication is going well.)

I have a question about which toroid to use for the inner toroid.  PESN says,

"His idea is simple, but fundamentally changes the design of Thane Heins system. He takes a large  M-146 nanoperm toroid produced by Magnetec ..."

But when I went to Magnetec's website yesterday, could not find the M-146 toroid... do they still sell this one ??

OR -- Is there an equivalent toroid one can use?  I'm in the States and hope there is a source on this side of the pond.  I'm thinking also about trying a replication and appreciate the "open source" nature of this discussion -- I agree with Feynman and others about the importance of open sourcing this research, which I think is very important for humanity.

We need a new, clean energy source!!!  Thanks to all contributing to this development.  I hope I can contribute something.  (I have a decent oscilloscope... haven't seen any DSO waveforms posted yet for this device.)

[FreqShift]

This thread is excellent!

What I really want is a practical application for this device, that can be used now.

For example, this scooter uses three 12 volt lead acid batteries:

http://www.superscootersales.com/?page_id=3&category=16&product_id=10

How can the Gabriel Device be used to extend the range of this scooter?

Also, what are your views on using Lithium batteries? Could using Lithium batteries be dangerous?

Please keep this thread alive !!!

[e2matrix]

  I'm also new to the OU forum, but have enjoyed posts here for some time.  Feynman started this thread and I have a lot of respect for him, and Mavendex and e2matrix and many others here.  (Are you out there, feynman ?-- hope your replication is going well.)

I have a question about which toroid to use for the inner toroid.  PESN says,

"His idea is simple, but fundamentally changes the design of Thane Heins system. He takes a large  M-146 nanoperm toroid produced by Magnetec ..."

But when I went to Magnetec's website yesterday, could not find the M-146 toroid... do they still sell this one ??

OR -- Is there an equivalent toroid one can use?  I'm in the States and hope there is a source on this side of the pond.  I'm thinking also about trying a replication and appreciate the "open source" nature of this discussion -- I agree with Feynman and others about the importance of open sourcing this research, which I think is very important for humanity.

We need a new, clean energy source!!!  Thanks to all contributing to this development.  I hope I can contribute something.  (I have a decent oscilloscope... haven't seen any DSO waveforms posted yet for this device.)

Actually you've inverted a number as it was originally stated (although incorrectly) that it was an M-416 but was later pointed out by Mavendex that this was a mistake and it should have been the M-417.  While no one has identified an exact replacement in the U.S. I'm sure there are some that might work but you may need to get a different size shell.  Also as twinbeard has mentioned it is likely you can make your own with magnetite if you are creative enough. 

   

[e2matrix]

This thread is excellent!

What I really want is a practical application for this device, that can be used now.

For example, this scooter uses three 12 volt lead acid batteries:

http://www.superscootersales.com/?page_id=3&category=16&product_id=10

How can the Gabriel Device be used to extend the range of this scooter?

Also, what are your views on using Lithium batteries? Could using Lithium batteries be dangerous?

Please keep this thread alive !!!

Lithium batteries are very prone to explode into flames if they are not charged in a very controlled way while you can hit lead acid batteries with almost anything and they seem to like it.