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The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

Started by Feynman, March 22, 2011, 04:07:09 PM

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Mavendex

The power amp was looking more and more vampiric but making it all reactive power seems to give it more juice plus, the things I really look for is a voltage cap on the secondary unloaded, it doesn't change much with the turns you put on the primary from then on out, theres a window that seems to be in relation of so many primary turns you can have that allow it to unload after that point it seems to revert ever so slightly not a full reflection, so far I have just been doing the scientific method, and trying different power sources, getting some tips from some people.

So far I have been peeling off a layer of insulated wire and adding mag wire in its place and the results are getting better and better more voltage on start up but it takes less power to get it there consecutively in each rebuild, how far that will go I'm hoping back to the original or better position,

I experimented with rodin turns this time just to see what kind of differences I can expect. Interesting more amps total go in but the power factor of the whole primary goes down a .10 more. kind of a trade off.

Thats all I really look for, I add turns to the primary to see how fast the PF will go down without retarding the innercore too much,then check it again this is where I saw 5 watts.

This time we will fill the whole bitt up with magwire taking out the insulated wire completely and hopefully getting a better result. at 3.3 ohms currently and holding out at 130 volts and my free amp, that nose we started out with has been cut in have to be at 2.5 amps for startup costs, the last time we were at 3.3 ohms we had some kind of a wierd short that was taking us 5 amps worth of power just to get it to sustain 180 volts and get our free amp.

That arc most likely took out a bunch of that wire in the beginning, since then I have insulated the inner core as well just so we don't have that issue.

Gotta love replicating :)
Mav

AmericanMan31

Here's what I think is "going-on" inside the Gabby..--Like the 2SGen by JL Naudin,.. we have a nanoperm, ok, even though the primary is not directly wound onto the nanoperm in Gabby, the resultant field has two critical oscillations going on between the shell (steel) and the nanoperm (Fe). In the 2sgen the pulsed frequency IS THE "oscillation".. and in gabby, it IS the collapsing field of BOTH metals,, one being contained in a "Farady cage", and the other providing a dense medium to "refract upon"
So.. with the collapsing field of both Metals (Gabby),  It is analogous to the inner workings of a "churchbell" you have a hammer pendul inside the bell "driving" the frequency (oscillation) the nanoperm in this case would be the "hammer" inside the Faraday steel "shell" , and acoustically,..in order for the field to escape its only path is to follow the secondary wires out of the device. What do YOU think? (Anyway, I see a lot of correlation between the 2SGen and the Gabby)

AmericanMan31

I like Cliffs response... This does not explain where or how the extra energy to yield an over unity
condition is extracted from the Dirac Sea. As for the inner workings of the two
magnetic circuits I see two simple controlling relationships.

I see it in much simpler terms involving the nature of the toroid itself, and
the ratio of reluctances between the two cores forcing a controlled split of the
magnetic flux between the two cores. The reluctance of a magnetic circuit is
l/μA, where l is the mean magnetic length around the toroid, A the core
cross sectional area, and μ the permeability of the material. The two cores
effectively present themselves as two magnetic circuits in parallel. Just like
two different resistors in parallel will split current flow according to the
value of the resistors 1/R = 1/R1 + 1/R2, so too the magnetic flux is split
between the two cores, according to their permeability ratio and area ratio
combined. Both core area and permeability variables may be played against each
other.

In essence high permeability (Mu) and large core area for the inner core yields
a much lower reluctance (magnetic resistance) than the outer toroidal shell with
much lower permeability and much smaller cross sectional area. One can achieve a
30:1 Mu ratio and a 10:1 core area ratio, and in combination a 300:1 ratio
splits magnetic flux around the two toroids in that ratio. A 0.6 Tesla flux
density in the inner core (say 600 micro Webers of flux) results in 2 micro
Webers of flux in the outer shell (flux density of 0.02 Tesla). Reluctance ratio
dictates the flux ratio between the two cores, simply as the ratio of
resistances in parallel splits current in terms of their resistance ratio.

This is interesting because over 99% of the flux in the circuit appears within
the inner core, and hence dictates magnetizing current of the primary. The
toroidal action of the outer shell ensures its center is also magnetized, this
magnetizing the inner core, and almost all the magnetic flux is captured by the
inner core due to its very low reluctance. The inner core core prevents the
outer shell from saturating, but the outer shell cannot be too thin. This means
the inner core dictates the number of primary turns, depending on the desired
level of magnetizing current needed.

So the toroidal action of the outer shell guarantees the inner core is
magnetized, and both toroids together dictate the total magnetizing current.
Now, what about the toroidal action of the inner core? Toroidal action consists
of two elements: a) the region inside the coil focuses flux within the coil and
within the core, as in the example above where both cores within the primary
coil are subjected to the primary magnetizing current; b) little if any magnetic
flux is allowed to leave the region of the core.

It is the 2nd element of toroidal action which explains why the back-EMF of the
secondary does not reach the primary magnetic circuit. Unlike the splitting of
flux between the two cores described above which are completely under the
auspices of the primary toroidal action covering both cores, the secondary
circuit is also an independent toroid in its own right. The toroidal action of
the secondary coil forces flux to be confined to the inner core (i.e. flux
leakage is discouraged), and there is little if any means available for the
secondary magnetic flux to influence the primary magnetic circuit. Therefore
load on the secondary is not allowed to be reflected to the primary. This is not
strictly a violation of Lenz's law, but merely enhances that law in terms of
defining coupling performance. It is poor coupling performance which prevents
secondary back-EMF flux influencing the primary circuit, and Lenz's law as
normally described merely refers to 100% coupling between the two circuits. The
inner toroid is disconnected from the primary circuit by virtue of its own
toroidal action. This is the beauty of the Klingelhoeffer bi-toroid nested
construction as opposed to the Thane Heins side-by-side construction.

So over unity coefficient of performance derives from less than perfect coupling
performance between primary and secondary. The inner toroid destroys this
coupling by the nature of its own toroidal action - flux forcibly confined to
the inner core means there is no mechanism for playing out Lenz's law to full
effect - only leakage flux could reach the primary circuit. It is the two coils
on the same core which ensures 100% coupling in a traditional Lenz law
configuration, and a disconnect between the two coils and two cores which
reduces coupling between the two magnetic circuits.

So this explains the thwarting of Lenz's law, but still does not explain the
source or mechanism of the over unity energy. Somehow the secondary coil in the
region outside the inner core is able to connect to an alternate source of
energy than the primary circuit. This part of the physics remain mysterious. I
see two elements to this Thane Heins effect - decoupling reduction and secondary
coil interaction with the Dirac Sea. The Klingelhoeffer construction focuses
more deeply on these two issues, and tends to more clearly differentiate these
two elements by introducing a nested bi-toroid construction, and offers a
different toroidal action perspective thereby. I do not think there is a single
effect in operation here.

One probably does not need nano crystalline core material to demonstrate this
reduction in magnetic circuit coupling. High permeability Mu metal inner
toroidal core and low permeability outer shell likely will work just as well.


AmericanMan31

Mavendex ,..
Would you consider placing a strong neodymium magnet on the secondary wires (like the 2SGen) to see if there is a greater release of energy? I believe there would be,. Do you have enough room for that in your shell? I suppose there would be room If you stuck one to the inside of the nanoperm away from the wires, angled "into the torus". ;)  What do you think?

Mavendex

a magnet will stop the ac from working you can try that on a normal transformer because the ac oscillates the magnetic domains but if you put a magnet on it then it makes the magnetic domains static and they won't change thus no energy transfer and no output.