The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

[Mavendex]

ya my 2" inch N50 magnet gloms right to it and takes quite a bit of doing to get it off,

Its magnetic, electrical steel that they use in distribution transformers Is CRGO which stands for Cold Rolled Grain Oriented steel.

[popolibero]

Ok Mav, thanks for clarifying!

Mario

[kampen]

@ All,

MAGNETEC Sales in USA

MH&W International Corp.
14 Leighton Place
Mahwah, NJ 07430 USA

Fon: +1(201) 891 8800
Fax: +1(201) 891 0625
magnetec@mhw-intl.com
http://www.mhw-intl.com

for ordering the NANOPERM M-416 Toroid.

[e2matrix]

I just called Magnetec, yeah, they say use the web store.   Talking on the phone with them was hillarious!  The answered the phone in German but they spoke English.  I had to slow down my rapid-talking American East Coast accent so they could understand me.  They were really friendly btw.

Use the Vebb Store for ordering!     They said that's the easiest way.  They also take International money wire and Paypal, so you can also do email orders that way.

Anyway, I ordered an M-416 (150 Euro) and an M-412 (50 Euro).  After ordering and selecting Paypal, the total was 240 Euro, so the total for the two cores was $348 with shipping. 

The M-412 is just a smaller version of the M-416, but has similar specs (permeability, saturation, etc). I'm going to use the M-416 as a production unit ,  and the M-412 for general experiments.  If this whole thing turns out to be a bust (measurement error or something), I can re-use these cores for other toroidal power experiments like the Boyce TPU replication.

But I honestly think we've got something here, or else I wouldn't be so eager to drop $350 on Nanoperm cores.  Worst case , the cores can be reused for HV pulsed DC experiments.

Oh also, the woman I spoke to on the phone at Magnetec, Diana, said you can probably substitute the M-116 if they run out of stock of the M-416 (it's the same size, just of slightly differing permeability (M-116 is approx. double the permeability, half the saturation level)

Here's the specs of their "Universal" cores:
http://www.magnetec.de/eng/universal-kerne1.htm


@wayne, @e2matrix

Can you link me to the Metglas toroidal material / core that you think most closely matches David's Nanoperm core?  You guys probably know more about these specs than I do, I'm learning as I go here...

The way I was reading the German site I thought it would be 100 Euro's for shipping alone (to U.S.).  Glad it wasn't that bad.  I'm not that up to speed on Metglas specs but I'm sure if you gave them a call or shot them an email with the model M-416 and maybe specs on it they could tell you if they have something that would work.  I did see wayne (forget the exact screen name) here say he asked them and they did not have an exact match.  In my experience you'd probably want to ask for an engineer at Metglas as a phone order person might find it easiest to just say 'no' we don't have an M-416 if you know what I mean.  Not to say wayne didn't try that but it might be worth a try as I think it might save some $$ and time over getting it from European countries (where prices tend to be higher - gas being about double there). 

  And yeah just like they drive on the wrong side of the road in Europe they also got their period and comma's backwards too  .... LOL   No offense to our European friends - just teasing a bit.

[e2matrix]

Good find kampen.  Looks like they carry Magnetec as well as other brands.