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The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

Started by Feynman, March 22, 2011, 04:07:09 PM

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broli

@Mavendex, I'm curious about something I asked a couple of pages ago. If the inner coil is energized and the outer coil produces no voltage then it means there's something very wrong with faraday's law. We have changing flux (the nanoperm core) and a current loop around this (outer coil) yet there's no voltage being produced. The magnetic domains of the outer shell should also not be affected as the field would be contained in the nanoperm core.

The other way around when you energize the outer coil, the inner nanoperm core is magnetised or else the inner coil wouldn't produce a voltage. BUT when this inner coil is allowed current to flow through it surely this should then counter act the alternating field of the nanoperm core and reduce the overal inductance on the primary? However this also seems not to happen.

With the other BTT variants I could at least pretend to see a reason but this one is truly mind boggling.

Hope

Why don't we skip the inner core material all together by using a Rodin coil which of course always throws its magnetic field (which is very strong even without a core at all) above and below itself?  Any wire, even uninsulated will do since it doesn't short out any ways and the Rodin coil is 62% more efficient than any other coil design at producing a magnetic field??

And current limiting is much easier than I see proposed....lets use a light blub(s) in series with the primary.  Many sizes (wattages) to choose from and easy to change for experimenting.

As for a mold to make a 11 inch coil   there is a CordPro cord holder made from plastic we can use,   11" overall Diameter   with a 3.85 thickness and also the height with a 4.50 inch hole width.  See it at this link  http://www.cordpro.com/    I found one at the thrift store brand new for $4.50 total.  They have even bigger ones to use to mold the outer cover with.   Simple is the word for this mold setup and it is convenient as well.    Perhaps they would consider making a small run without the cordpro embossing.  They have a mini one too!  maybe these will be suitable for most of us wanting to pour our own,  Teflon spray coating should work for a mold release agent, what do you think??     Someone please comment on this input so I know it is getting thru please. 

Perhaps cermet would be a great mix to mold with.
Edited for correctness and spelling.

Mavendex

Quote from: Hope on August 13, 2011, 08:13:05 PM
Why don't we skip the inner core material all together by using a Rodin coil which of course always throws its magnetic field (which is very strong even without a core at all) above and below itself?  Any wire, even uninsulated will do since it doesn't short out any ways and the Rodin coil is 62% more efficient than any other coil design at producing a magnetic field??

And current limiting is much easier than I see proposed....lets use a light blub(s) in series with the primary.  Many sizes (wattages) to choose from and easy to change for experimenting.

As for a mold to make a 11 inch coil   there is a CordPro cord holder made from plastic we can use,   11" overall Diameter   with a 3.85 thickness and also the height with a 4.50 inch hole width.  See it at this link  http://www.cordpro.com/    I found one at the thrift store brand new for $4.50 total.  They have even bigger ones to use to mold the outer cover with.   Simple is the word for this mold setup and it is convenient as well.    Perhaps they would consider making a small run without the cordpro embossing.  They have a mini one too!  maybe these will be suitable for most of us wanting to pour our own,  Teflon spray coating should work for a mold release agent, what do you think??     Someone please comment on this input so I know it is getting thru please. 

Perhaps cermet would be a great mix to mold with.
Edited for correctness and spelling.

Thats not a bad idea and should be tried :)

Mavendex

Quote from: broli on August 13, 2011, 05:21:59 PM
@Mavendex, I'm curious about something I asked a couple of pages ago. If the inner coil is energized and the outer coil produces no voltage then it means there's something very wrong with faraday's law. We have changing flux (the nanoperm core) and a current loop around this (outer coil) yet there's no voltage being produced. The magnetic domains of the outer shell should also not be affected as the field would be contained in the nanoperm core.

The other way around when you energize the outer coil, the inner nanoperm core is magnetised or else the inner coil wouldn't produce a voltage. BUT when this inner coil is allowed current to flow through it surely this should then counter act the alternating field of the nanoperm core and reduce the overal inductance on the primary? However this also seems not to happen.

With the other BTT variants I could at least pretend to see a reason but this one is truly mind boggling.

Distance of the magnetic field, and the nanoperm can only hold so much.

Hope

So now you have answered your own question it seems.  The core can only saturate and no more.  Following the path of least resistance to the secondary coil and core.  It would seem that the metal doughnut barriers or COULD barrier the transfer.