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The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

Started by Feynman, March 22, 2011, 04:07:09 PM

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Quote from: SchubertReijiMaigo on August 24, 2011, 04:51:20 AM
If anyone is interested to make independent verification and for backup data about this experiment:

I post the exp. data I use here:

1) Take a Nanoperm Magnetec toroid a M116 one (u=30000).
2) Take a cold rolled steel shell at
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_kw=steel&_kw=donut
the 7.5'' outer / 2.5'' inner version, vendor was:   eworldsales1

3) Cut it in two half properly, avoid the gap between them, drill two small hole (2.5mm) for the wire secondary can pass through the outer shell.

4) Isolate the two half to avoid Eddy. (Eddy will create losses, make it less efficient and overheat the shell (single shorted turn effect)...

5) Wind secondary, mine was 117 turns exactly...

6) Put this secondary into the two half, put the wire in the two hole, and close it, no gap should be here (I wonder if the gap is important or no ?).

7) Start to wind primary, mine was with several input:

    Winding A: 70
    Winding B: 25
    Winding C: 25
    Winding D: 21
    Winding E: 15

For a total of 156 turns. My test was at this number, Boucherot formula will give me around 1 Tesla magnetisation (including shell )...

8 ) Input was 12 VAC 50 Hz, or 24 VAC with amplifier and frequency generator.

9) The load and input bulb was car headlight bulb, 12 Volts with two filament 40 watts and 45 watts, use only one filament and the same for both bulbs, in my test it was the horizontal filament...

10) Input bulb is on series with primary, load is at secondary...

11) Play with the device, (frequency, voltage, turns) you should observe non linear characteristic and disproportional input/output current...

12) For improving output: two theories at this time:
      A) Increase number of turns at secondary.
      b) Increase phase difference by a thicker shell (need to build another   device with a new shell...)
      C) Both phenomena...

13) Enjoy !!!       SchubertReijiMaigo 08/24/2011.

SRM -- thank you very much for sharing the details in a plain and organized manner.  I would like to try a replication also -- and I'm eagerly awaiting results from Clanzers.

Three questions:
1.  What gauge wire did you use for the secondary, and for the primary?
2.  How did you measure the phase difference?
3.  How did you measure the input power, and the output power?

Thanks again -- very exciting work.
StevenEJones

Hope

COOL BLUE® Cores to reduce motor-bearing currents
COOL BLUE® toroids made from the
nano-crystalline core material
NANOPERM® are being used increasingly
to reduce damaging
motor bearing currents in modern high power inverter systems operating at high
switching frequencies. As a result of these unwanted currents, the bearings corrugate,
leading to electrical breakdown in the lubrication and finally to a standstill of the entire
motor.
The use of COOL BLUE® cores not only significantly reduces the over voltage peaks at
the motor terminals, but also suppresses the asymmetrical EMI currents which are
generated by the parasitic capacities of the motor itself together with the motor cable.
In order to achieve an efficient reduction in these destructive effects, one or more
COOL BLUE® cores of suitable geometry have to be placed together over the
connector cables in the DC-link as well as at the inverter output. In this configuration,
the cores operate as a common-mode choke.
This method significantly increases the service life of the motor bearings and thus
reduces maintenance costs and standstill periods.
Core fixing: Cased in plastic box (material UL listed, file no. QMFZ2 E41938)
Standard range
Type Bare Core Size
od x id x h [mm]
Fixed Core Size
OD x ID x H [mm]
lfe
[cm]
afe
[cm2]
Al @ 10kHz
[μH]
Isat*
[A]
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TYPE   Bare Core Size mm      Fixed Core Size mm  ife afe  Al@10KHz/Uh Isat
M-112     63 x 50 x 30          68 x 43 x 36             17,7 1,44 23,3 - 46,6 4
M-649   63 x 50 x 30 OVAL 17,7 1,44 23,3 - 46,6 4 -
M-378 75 x 50 x 30 80 x 43 x 36 19,4 2,78 37,3 - 74,6 5 -
M-113 80 x 63 x 30 85 x 57 x 35,5 22,4 1,86 24,1 - 48,2 6
M-283 80 x 63 x 30 OVAL 22,4 1,86 24,1 - 48,2 6
M-114 100 x 80 x 30 105 x 75 x 35 28,2 2,25 22,5 - 45,0 8
M-284 100 x 80 x 30 OVAL 28,2 2,25 22,5 - 45,0 8
M-142 130 x 100 x 20 OVAL 37,0 2,12 16,0 - 32,0 9
M-115 130 x 100 x 30 135 x 94 x 34 35,9 3,33 24,6 - 52,9 9
M-116 160 x 130 x 30 165 x 123 x 34 45,4 3,24 20,9 - 45,0 12
M-302 160 x 130 x 30 OVAL 44,7 3,30 20,9 - 45,0 12
M-117 200 x 175 x 30 208 x 166 x 37 58,8 2,74 12,3 - 24,6 16
M-111 236,5 x 201 x 30 OVAL 69,6 3,94 14,5 - 29,9 20
M-248 300 x 254 x 30 OVAL 87,1 5,20 15,8 - 31,5 22
M-205 300 x 254 x 30 304 x 246 x 36 87,1 5,20 15,8 - 31,5 22
M-503 500 x 450 x 30 513 x 437 x 37 149 5,60 8,0 - 20,0 40
* Saturation Current (peak value) at 1 turn
®NANOPERM; ®COOL BLUE: Registered trademarks of MAGNETEC GmbH
2010 MAR 31 / Page 4

This is just a page from their catalog folks to show you options
Here is their link in Germany     But there is one in New Jersey also.
http://www.coolbluecores.com/magnetec.htm

Hope

SRM, I posted your specs and build info in the downloads section so members could print them easily.  Happy buildings all!

SchubertReijiMaigo

QuoteThree questions:
1.  What gauge wire did you use for the secondary, and for the primary?
2.  How did you measure the phase difference?
3.  How did you measure the input power, and the output power?

Thanks again -- very exciting work.
StevenEJones

1) 1.5mm^2 or 15 or 16 AWG
2) Not measured yet, I don't have scope... (read Tesla patent and his similar device).
3) Nor measure but rather a visual measurement (light bulb brilliance) if the input is off and output is bright or gloomy you have something abnormal (FE)...

Now the next step is increase output power...

Hope

I am looking for a nanoperm core to build on.  Please send me the type # you have and I will contact you and payment can be arranged.  I would like shipping asap.  I just talked to Magnetec in NJ and they have ONE M428 in stock that is 300X254X30 but with shipping it is over 900 bucks.  That is WAY over my piggy bank while I am facing some challenges.  But it is somewhere near 9-10 lbs core at 1.2 Tesla's.  Made for power application.  That core would really be awesome to proto-type with and would be the largest build yet.   I best be looking at the SJones build of the M116 variety or something on that order.  Line upon line, is my normal building cycle nowdays.  I think the creator wants this technology to come forth for the benefit of mankind at this time and hope you my brothers will remember that this world is just temporal.  Are decisions are eternal.   

http://www.coolbluecores.com/magnetec.htm
if you need this link

You may contact me at arttam54@yahoo.com

Costs come way down with quanity purchasing and I will be getting those figures tomorrow email from NJ soon.  They were friendly and helpful.

14 gauge wire is rated at 15 amps
12 gauge wire is rated at 20 amps
10 gauge at 30 amps
08 gauge at 40 amps   
this is national electrical code.
Volts times Amps = WATTS

*Attention:  As you strip ANY wire DO NOT nick the wire it changes the amp rating lower.  Strip with the correct wire gauge tool of the correct size.

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