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The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

Started by Feynman, March 22, 2011, 04:07:09 PM

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matthewklinko

@Magluvin

I believe all the cores that are made from strips are square, though a circle would be much preferred.

Mavendex

Quote from: Hope on September 08, 2011, 05:44:55 PM
So Mavendex you were VERY correct that we have to make vortex action and this is simple if we just physically spin the coil(s).

You don't need to physically spin the coils, just recycle that energy. lets imagine a single pulse of juice, and you have 10 degree sections wrapped around your core, and their is 9 turns per section equaling out to be 360 turns, obviously there is more to it but this is the nuts and bolts of it.

So that one pulse will have to travel around the core 9 times before it leaves thru the neutral. now that's fluid movement of a magnetic field, so lets go a step further cause the term for 36 sided polygon is dodecagon, lets make it a bit easier buy going lets say a hexagon, now we get around 60 turns per section that same pulse has to travel 60 times around the toroid before it can leave thru the neutral.

Verses the helical turns, which with that same single pulse, it only goes around 1 time.

Helical turns will also give diminishing returns, where geometric turns have a bit more of a advantage.

The only thing I have noticed of a advantage on helical turns is that it lowers the power factor, where geometric turns make it go up. its a non issue tho cause you use less actual power and get more power out with geometric turns. I have about 3 experiments so far that tell this story.

@ Mags Ill never be satisfied :P

Mav

PS. We will vacuum seal the inner toroid so not only is it isolated from the outer coil, and the shells are isolated from each other, but now we have isolated the inner core from pressure as well. Actually its been done already and has some interesting effects but we will look at that more in the future.

Hope

Thank you Mavendex for sharing that rotational info with us. 

AND MATTHEW That drawing is great!  Thanks

Private licensing on a per individual basis would help gain royalties on each unit produced.  Allowing others able to build and place these devices into societies hands.  This will build common belief that it is not impossible and also insure getting these devices to people who can quantify the results and create working formulas so science will have to accept the idea.  Taking back to mankind what has always been here but was suppressed.  Other wise what has happened to hundreds of these devices will happen again, suppression.

Why the rubbing of magnetic fields gain so much is do to disruption of cohesion, you disturb the natural balance and nature brings its own powers to regain that balance.  This is the same with any physical matter (any part of creation) imbalance.  These antennas placed on devices, when this disturbance takes place, then the natural balance occurs and the antenna just collecting the back flow when nature is trying to balance again. 

Hope

Mavendex after seeing what you meant by making the force travel around the core, why can't we coil the wire many turns on the outside edge and make a form doing the same that will place the windings near the inner edge of the core like the first outside but inside the toriod? This way we can have hundreds of orbits of the same work force.  Then we may just be able to put pickup coils on the top and bottom of the same core.? Or maybe we will have to use top and outside for input then bottom and center for output.  (I know, I know you will mostly tell me to build it and see)  I can't yet until my cores arrive.  But IF I can get this home repair done soon I will build the magnet ring core and try it with that and get regular ferrite powder and build a core too.

Magluvin

Quote from: Mavendex on September 09, 2011, 06:52:53 AM

PS. We will vacuum seal the inner toroid so not only is it isolated from the outer coil, and the shells are isolated from each other, but now we have isolated the inner core from pressure as well. Actually its been done already and has some interesting effects but we will look at that more in the future.


Hey Mav

I think the absence of air inside might not allow heat from the inner core/sec to escape as wellas with air(gas). Maybe higher pressure?  Oil? Like in an ignition coil, the oil helps to transfer heat to the outer casing.

Well its friday..  Im going to do some tests on the tube setup and some on the toroid in toroid.

Was thinking on the shell model, as to what goes on in the doughnut hole of the sec with the shell and primary in the way . If the sec field just wraps around the inner circle of the shell without penetrating, then I think its a good thing for the toroid in toroid also. We dont want the primary field to cross the sec winding as a whole, just the side facing outward mostly. Will explain later..   ;]

Back to the daily grind, lunch is over. 


Mags