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The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

Started by Feynman, March 22, 2011, 04:07:09 PM

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Mavendex

Quote from: Jack Noskills on September 19, 2011, 05:29:00 AM
I realised the other day why Tesla used iron wire in his trafo patent that used quarant phasing, it is there to capture the back EMF of the secondary so that it does not reach the core.

Then I played with this in my head and I came up with this possible improvement, I am not sure if this is correct place to post but it has same components as gabby so it is close enough.

Lets say the toroid is wound first with relatively fine wire so that coil will be atleast 10 mm thick. On top of this primary a coarser wire is wound which is sorted, this would be intermediate coil. On top of this the output coil is wound using iron wire. Purpose of iron is to capture back EMF of intermediate wire so that primary does not see it and generate power from it. So iron coil would be core and a coil at the same time.

Now what happens here ? Primary and secondary fluxes would be in same direction so if secondary flux reaches the core it would not oppose it, primary current should go down. Intermediate coil would run at its full speed providing high EMF as there would be low resistance, this EMF would then feed the iron coil as it is closer to it than primary core which is atleast 10 mm away. The more back EMF iron coil would produce the more it would help the primary and reduce current there.

What is your opinion, could it be this simple ?

If anyone has iron wire at hand I see this test worthwhile the effort. Baseline to test against would be first to use only two copper coils, a normal trafo. Then add iron coil and use it as a back EMF collector as Tesla did and finally try the same by shorting intermediate coil. Number of turns would need to be high in every coil, atleast thousand. Maybe iron coil would need even more turns, experimenting needed here.

BTW, this intermediate coil can be connected to output if placed in correct way but I am not sure if it would help in this setup.

Coat hanger wire is already enameled and is of the proper gauge it would take some time to make each and every single loop tho, So just go buy some coat hangers and make it happen :)

woopy

Quote from: Acca on September 19, 2011, 03:55:53 PM
I have just posted a validation of a vortex magnetic spin video clip and need some input as to why this is possible and is there any way to image this with out water ??? Al..     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Xc9VHbXl8


Hi ACCA

very good video link

and i can not prevent me to replicate the effect and it works very well

and now what can we do with this spinning vortex ?? perhaps a new thread ??

good luck at all

Laurent

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoBNfEyOiBs


Magluvin

Hey Woopy

How have you been? ;]  Try a little salt in the water.. Should be more bubbles and more effect.  I remember some movie that a submarine was propelled like this, silently. In salt water.  ;]

Mags

JouleSeeker

  I stumbled on this on youtube today, wonder what you guys think:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVYiT4zK9Kc&NR=1

It is a type of bi-toroid trafo, so seems relevant here.  Anyway, he is claiming over 300% OU... 

cheers, Steve

Mavendex

more thane oriented stuff joule, I would think we are past this at this point maybe draw more influence it to the direction of what aacc was going about I actually have a couple of very large magnets available I will test to see if we can make it work with what we have.

Mave