Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[TinselKoala]

@fletcher
I like the idea of the membranes, a strong visual indication is worth a dozen numbers in boxes, IMHO. But... ultimately, the numbers in the boxes are how we engineer our reality, the stuff around us we take for granted every day.

You said,
"Larry C's comments were relating to showing "a simple explanation of energy advantage""

Yes, that is what I thought too, but we found out that there is no energy advantage, just a leverage to increase pressure... not energy or work. So I still don't get it. If there is no increase or advantage in _work_ or _energy_.... and the pressure advantage is happening at the middle, not the end of the cycle.... so what? What is the relevance of that, to a big, groaning machine that is supposed to run itself (until something leaks or breaks or needs to be modified) and make 36 extra watts (measured how?) beyond what it needs for self running?

[TinselKoala]

I'm not missing your point at all, Mags, I'm just making one of my own, on top of it.

Of course, serendipity favors the prepared mind. The only thing anybody will discover sitting in their figurative armchairs is how to get more comfortable. I learn something every day... whether I like it or not! However, there are far too many wild geese to chase, for me to spend time fishing after Red Herrings.

Peach, my friend. Er.... I mean peace.

[MT]

I have put users MileHigh, Seamus and Microcontroller on Moderation as they have trolling this
thread too much  !

Regards, Stefan.

Often I just would like to filter out posts of certain people from a thread to get faster to the point. Is it possible Stefan? It would be nice to have such setting then I can choose who is displayed and get a more concentrated page.
regards,
Marcel 

[TinselKoala]

Often I just would like to filter out posts of certain people from a thread to get faster to the point. Is it possible Stefan? It would be nice to have such setting then I can choose who is displayed and get a more concentrated page.
regards,
Marcel

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[fletcher]

@fletcher : I like the idea of the membranes, a strong visual indication is worth a dozen numbers in boxes, IMHO. But... ultimately, the numbers in the boxes are how we engineer our reality, the stuff around us we take for granted every day.

You said,
"Larry C's comments were relating to showing "a simple explanation of energy advantage""

Yes, that is what I thought too, but we found out that there is no energy advantage, just a leverage to increase pressure... not energy or work. So I still don't get it.

If there is no increase or advantage in _work_ or _energy_.... and the pressure advantage is happening at the middle, not the end of the cycle.... so what?

What is the relevance of that, to a big, groaning machine that is supposed to run itself (until something leaks or breaks or needs to be modified) and make 36 extra watts (measured how?) beyond what it needs for self running?

Agreed !

What I find astounding is that these sorts of examples are put up as gospel of something relevant by a seeming acolyte - Wayne gave it the thumbs up of showing something important in principle.

But ... a physical model wasn't put up with supporting data of an energy advantage but a spread sheet was - you [the skeptic & not on team Travis] have to do the real world build & test, & explain the data & conclusions that show NO energy advantage - anyone would have thought you put up the spreadsheet.

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Now I'll go back & find See3d's analysis of a ZED action & see if I can follow him.