Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[vince]

Just a test reply to see why I can't post a reply with an attachment to this thread.

[TinselKoala]

Just a test reply to see why I can't post a reply with an attachment to this thread.

Attachment type, perhaps? There is a list of allowed file types; .bmp for example isn't one of them.

[MileHigh]

Jejeho:

The upward force is the same in both cases.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
 
Archimedes (287 BC - 212 BC), the discoverer of this principle 
 
Archimedes' principle is a law of physics stating that the upward force (buoyancy) exerted on a body immersed in a fluid is equal to the weight of the amount of fluid the body displaces.  In other words, an immersed object is buoyed up by a force equal to the weight of the fluid it displaces. This principle is named after its discoverer, Archimedes of Syracuse.[1]" 

In both cases, the amount of displaced water is the same.

Wayne:

It appears that you have tricked yourself into thinking that you are getting the same lifting power with a smaller volume of air.  Your fixed solid cylinder inside the flotation cylinder is just displacing some of the air inside the flotation cylinder that allegedly demonstrates the "Travis Effect."

The work that you have to expend to fill the flotation cylinder with the smaller amount of air vs. the amount of work that you can get back from the buoyancy x displacement of the flotation cylinder is the real issue.  The work that you put in will be equal or greater than the work that you get out.  This is what you are failing to look at.  You are deluding yourself when you look at your diagram and thinking that you are getting a gain.

Repeat, you are simply failing to examine how much work it takes to fill the cylinder with air in the first place and instead you are comparing the two cylinders and seeing a difference there.

It makes me wonder if you used a tank of compressed air to power the prototype because you were so convinced that you had energy gains that you thought it would "just be a technicality" to remove the tank of compressed air and switch over to a self-powering setup.

People that are interested can check out the discussion on pesn dot com.

Better luck next time but that's the way it really is.

MileHigh

[hartiberlin]

Hi MileHigh,
Wayne  said already that no air is going in or out, so it is a closed cycle.

Maybe you should call hard Skeptic Mark Dansie and let it explain to you or
you are going also to visit Wayne ?


The only 2 things that are different is the air volume to have the same lift force !

So in the Travis effect case you need less energy to pump the air under the bucket from below.

How his complete cycle and his machine really works is still a mystery to me.
Only one cylinder at the time is pushing, but what is the other cylinder then doing at this instance ?
Where is its air stored for later reuse ?

As this works somehow like a see-saw the lift must be switchable on and off...

When it is off, where does the air go ??


Maybe if someone has an idea we can try to reverse engineer it over here !

Regards, Stefan.

[mrwayne]

Milehigh,
You speak that which you do not know as fact, and you have ignored much of what we have said.

You can wait until our third party validation resumes, and until then -

You are wasting your time, and mine. We have the working models, and have been collecting Data.

So you are makeing a show for yourself at my expense. 

You might consider the tone at which you deny our process, it is going to emberass you.

Wayne