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Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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mrwayne

 But what is being presented fails to address a flow path of cause and effect which can demonstrate a potential gain. Complicating the system 


Hello Johnny,
A very simple flow path -
I am suprised by your comments.
The inner system of layers is not pushed down as in your video -
They are held in place by resistance from a production cylinder - the water (or air) - increases the head pressure - which increases the air pressure - the air pressure acts upon the surfaces creating an upward force which overcomes the resistance of the production cylinder.
When the prodcution cylinder is over come - the production is split two ways - to supplement the next half stroke, and to run the generator -
After the stroke length is achieved - the head pressure is transfered to the alternate system, which then uses the pre supplied production + ( plus) the head pressure to stroke again.
(the lowering syetem is refilling it prodcution cylinder on the down portion of the stroke)
and the production is split again for the next half stroke.
Over and over - it is very simple.
You see - head has stored energy, and the compressed air - has stored energy - we do not consume those - we just supplement the transfer from side to side (Zed to Zed)
p.s It is the "Travis Effect"
Thanks Wayne


prato_braun

Hello mrwayne,


thanks for your time and input. I really hope it's not a scam and
your going to succeed to put a working system in the market.
I still have problems grasping the travis effect so I drew a picture of how I understood the
downward travis effect and I would like your opinion.
Is it utterly wrong or is downward pushing force not equal to weight?
All the best,


Prato

mrwayne

Hello Prato
Yes, only fix the "block" with a solid connection. (it could float up - and confuse things)
The Block - or mass displacement does not have to be concrete - you just need to create the flow path so that the small volume of water becomes head pressure.
In buoyancy - the head pressure is converted to air pressure which acts against surfaces -
In hydro pressure - as you have drawn - the head acts directly against the surfaces. same forces - opposite capture method.

Well Done.
(the point on the lack of need for concrete - if the block were hollow - you would see it as buoyany too)

johnny874

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edited to add;
Okay, I get it now. You use an air pump to increase the air pressure in "A" to
lift the block. And when you bleed the air off, it allows the block to compress air
in "D" to create hydraulic pressure.
With what I drew, there is the high pressure area which is the source of energy
for the low pressure area which performs the actual work. As my drawing shows,
only 2 areas are needed. And how any pressure change occurs is observed at that
location.
I think using an air manifold and an air pump really makes it difficult to believe
your system is self powering.

                                                                      Jim

edit;
Not sure how to put this Wayne, but I think you complicated your idea to such an extent that you probably can't follow it yourself.

johnny874

  Wayne,
Could you make a list of all "add ons" that peform work.
You know, any motor, pump, etc. ?
The difference between my designs and yours is that I
use mechanical means which can be tested independently.
And as I mentioned, creating a static head is not overunity.
It has to be shown how the system can be reversed without
expending any energy to do so, or less than what the system
develops. You don't show this at any time.
You see, when your weight drops, it does create hydraulic
pressure. It also takes an equal amount of work to lift the weight
back to it's original position. This is why I think you use an air pump.
Other wise, your 2 sides would balance each other out in a neutral
position.
                                                    Jim