Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[Red_Sunset]

This is purely based on your belief where are the successful replications that show clear overunity,
Where is the Scientific Data that show your belief is right,
You entirely base your belief on Wayne's Words I have shown you that Wayne cannot be trusted on his word,
but since you don't have to believe in reality.... facts or verification to post on this forum
we will continue to hear your words of blind faith without actually ever seeing any proof from you.

Now if you're going to take some of Wayne ideas and make your own unique device,
I wish you all the best of luck and hope you don't make any claims you can't prove.

PowerCat,
Wayne's invention as a device is a milestone in the OU path. But it is not as important as the principle that provides the doorway to the OU domain beyond. There is no blind faith, no hypnosis, no magic spell, involved that Wayne bestowed upon me.  He did not convince me, he even let me hang suspended so I could figure it out for myself. There was the forum and I compared notes with Wayne from time to time and he gave me hints when stuck.  Like the forum, just a little bit more efficient.  I am very greatfull to him for the help he provided during that time period.
The work notes done were compiled into a book that I gave to Wayne in gratitude. The book was initially called "Zed for Dummies", renamed later as "The Zed riddle explained" to avoid the 'dummies' naming conflict
The investigative research that led to the diamonds in the bottom of the Zed was initially not so easily understood and presents itself as a pandora's box.  Only a creative dissection will slowly reveal its secrets, I went through multiple stages of realization.  As Webby1, Wildew and Mondesarek will witness.
Once clearly understood, the principles to OU as unlocked by the Zed are not restricted to the Zed and can be applied in many different ways.  When Wayne releases the latest test unit, you will not even see a Zed any longer.
It all has to do with the physics principles not with the zed. The zed is just one expressive form of the principle. The device is difficult to manage in any case and there are now easier ways to do it.
PS: I would never present my own device here on this or any forum,  we should learn from our experiences

[DaveBrit]

Ladies and Gents;

No one ever said "The proof of the pudding is all about just talking about it!!"

Let's EAT some of that ZED pudding and determine how good it really is.


Enough Advertising already !!


Serve it up!!

Carry on and get on with it!!

[Red_Sunset]

SEAMUS

Make no mistake, when Mr wayne says ,  'we don't have an input' he is unambiguously stating that his machine breaks the first law of thermodynamics. Anything else he claims should be immediately disqualified by any thinking person.

TinselKoala

Red, gravity is a conservative field of force. Buoyancy is just an effect of gravity by another name, worked through displacement of water. This means that there is nothing that "flows" in the force of gravity, and the gravitational potential energy of any object depends ONLY on its height above a reference, not at all on the simple or complicated path that it took to get there or how much work went into getting it there in the first place.

Seamus, TinselKoala,
OK, I back down !!  You are right,  tapping gravity for energy can not be, it is impossible!
Impossibility is a fact!  It is a fallacy to think it could be different

* So please do not waste any more time here on this thread !
* Do not worry about the validation, it is not going to work, why ask ?
* I am sorry you had to post so many messages, you can delete them all.
* Since it all can not work, you can delete your login also!
* Over-unity is a heresy, so you can shut down this website to!
So lets go home and forget about it all

It is so strange that we are ALL here discussing this in the first place, discussing a impossibility and looking for a possibility to get around the impossibility and that is totally impossible, especially with people who think it is absolutely impossible.
Strange human beings we are.

[MileHigh]

Strange human beings we are.

More like strange ways we human beings try to find ways to make a living.

[TinselKoala]

You just aren't getting it, Red. The fact of gravity being a conservative field of force and all the consequences of that are well known and trusted to be correct. Without solid experimental evidence otherwise, NOT WORDS OF A THEORY, this fact must be taken as true and valid.

The story of the Graneaus is just one example of a theory, put forth by solid scientists, with only a single little flaw: it was the wrong theory to describe the system concerned, yet this flaw was not seen and understood for much longer and for much more cashburn than Mister Wayne has managed. They were blown out of the water.... so to speak..... by the LACK of experimental evidence that actually supported their theory, in spite of many trials that they -claimed- to do so, combined with careful analysis that produced a CORRECT theory that WAS supported  by the experimental evidence and predicted the outcomes of further experimentation accurately. IT HAPPENS, and a lot of people went down the wrong path on that one.... because of the force of Peter Graneau's personality and credentials.

In the present case we are at the same stage the Graneaus were when that "extra pair of eyes" I mentioned started looking at their story. Scientific research has stopped (without even a paper published: the Graneaus had, I think, five or 6 in the mainstream physics literature, including an entire book published by Oxford University Press) and engineering efforts are under  way.... without bearing the fruit of a self-running machine that DOESN'T STOP after a short time. To me, the parallels are uncanny, because I am intimately acquainted with the story of the Graneaus.

Bottom line: theories are fine things. They are a dime a dozen, even cheaper by the gross. But if they are not used to set up real and falsifiable hypotheses which are then rigorously tested, they are just words and equations, no matter how logical they seem or how well the math works out.

You don't seriously believe that scientists and engineers who understand how to do THIS (following picture) don't thoroughly understand gravity, buoyancy, and mechanical advangage, do you? Perhaps you do...... but some people believe in angels and demons, too.

http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/05016702.jpg