Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[GreenHiker]

Powercat –
In evaluating Wayne's words I come from a completely different perspective than you. I started corresponding with Wayne in March and traveled to Chickasha to meet him in April. Shortly after that I did the 5 fishtank demos on the Travis Effect (I named it that, not Wayne). Since then, we have written and spoken numerous times. I also have spoken to and/or written often to other teammates. I consider Wayne a good friend. So from that admitted bias, I will tell you that I don't believe your list to have lies in it.  I will add my thoughts to your quotes. It's a long one but here goes...

I always keep my word, and I tell the truth even when it hurts
I have never seen a lie from Wayne. I would have stated some quotes differently if they came from me, but no lies. He has misjudged the amount of time to accomplish certain milestones, but again no lies.

I promise, you who wish open sourcing will not be disappointed.
To get across what I thought he was trying to say at the time, I would have said ....totally disappointed. He is not open sourcing the project. Period. But...for the open sourcing fans, Wayne will not sit by and let this technology get bought by big oil, etc. to be pigeon-holed and not brought out for the good of mankind. Also, from the beginning, all of the details of the technology were spread to a few trusted team members so as to assure that the IP would never rest with one individual. He will also not allow the technology to be priced out of the reach of the common man. People that want this technology spread to the masses at a reasonable price will be pleased.

We will be releasing to scientific journals and presenting the Data professionally, when Marks Group recommends. I look forward to the longevity runs as well, Next weekend is when we have the help to set up the new plc equipment and software.
When the 48 hour run is made with Mark or his alternate, Mark has a group lined up that will validate the machine and release their findings to scientific journals. I don't believe those plans have changed.  As far as I know the equipment and software were installed at the point mentioned.

Mark Dansie has assembled the team for our Extended runs - critical review
Mark does have a team ready to evaluate the device after the 48 hour run. We are still waiting for the 48 hour run but Mark's team is ready.

We will run our pre test runs starting Monday - after we are sure we do not have new clogs   - I call Mark and he will come - the 28 is still our goal.
The pre-test runs were not successful then, so Mark did not bring in his team

Mark will come as soon as I ask - he is ready too. But I have not asked him to come yet, I might after tomorrows Run.
The pre-test runs were not successful then, so Mark did not bring in his team

We began running pretrial tests - prior to Mark Dansie's return - I had very much hoped to be done by Wednesday.
Again, the pre-test runs were not successful, so Mark did not bring in his team

After this Validation testing and presentation - we will be setting down to a coalition of teams world wide to bring this technology to the world.
This is a plan after validation. We are not there yet.

Mark has set his return for the week of the 20th.
As far as I know it was on Mark's schedule but pre-test runs were not successful.

We are solving current issues for Mark and the rest of the team's next visit
They were working on problems in anticipation of Mark's next visit.

No, I am not sharing run Data with anyone, until we have the system ready to be released.
The data is being held for Mark's validation team. This is just a smart business practice. Why risk someone from this board trying to upstage the validation/scientific journal article before Mark's team has the chance to publish theirs?

Marks third return was delayed because our "new" system would not charge the accumulator.
The accumulator was not getting charged properly at that point. I believe they then split the combined hydraulic system into separate systems for each ZED.

Mark - I still have not seen the two day demo yet , but I never put a time frame on this. However as with all things as time carries on the confidence level always diminishes.
I agree with Mark's statement. I think Wayne would too.

Our OU is not and has not been the question - simple physics can show it over and over.
I don't think I would have said simple physics, but spreadsheets like those from Larry C. help technically oriented people understand how the device works. Personally I think that TK, "Seamus", Mile High, etc. all understand the spreadsheets. They are too brilliant not to get it. They just won't acknowledge it to be true until they see the physical evidence that supports it.

p.s. our optimized system is over 600% efficient.
Wayne is not a scientist or an engineer. Depending on how you look at it, the machine does have an input, but is a closed loop. Some of the output gets routed back to the input. Figure it however you want, but infinity tells me it is closed looped only. Using the % figures, at least you get the picture how much over the self looped portion is excess free energy. 

It will all begin in a short time - the validation is just around the corner - I am relieved and excited.
Just around the corner is a relative term.... 

We expect to be finished by the end of the week - assuming all goes semi well (parts delivery) and we will be ready for the Validation!
Expectations were not completely met. True

Of course this means we will run a couple days for ourselves before we turn it over to the validation team
- I have been in clear and constant communication with them.
They do have to run for two days before Marks validation. Wayne has been in frequent communication with Mark.

I spoke with Mark this morning regarding time lines, and travel arrangements
- we have selected a prevalidation member to come this weekend
That was a deceptive quote. I believe the full quote said something to the effect "if all goes well".

Do you feel a sense of urgency in our Development?
Have you waited long enough, are you ready to be done with all of the improvements and obstacles, are you ready for the internal Validation, and the external validation? Me too.
Me three!

I hope this helps.

Tom

[Pirate88179]

Really .......  Since my answer was not clear enough to you... let me share a non educational moment with you.
Do you know we are growing as a team - highly intellegent and educated members with understanding and respect for each other - it is great to be part of a good team and greater purpose.
We care about the education of growing intellects - moving beyond the rhetoric, finding the brave and diligent, finding the people with loyalty to character, and the willingness to see what is not so simple.
I am dumb compared to most who come - considering all things - but I am the inventor.... and that does let me understand things well enough.
Do you know what I noticed about those that join our private group - a common thread we have - we are willing to be wrong - maybe that goes along with people with eyes willing to see?
Look Power - You attacked me, and you attacked others while quoting your own attack on me.. you call calling your slander  "Fact" and then you repost it again and again - does that give you courage/confidence?
Your being a bully and a class disruption.
If you want to ask questions on how the system works - and get answers - start with an apology and accept the terms of mutual respect.
As RED suggested - You don't need to ask questions - most of the right questions were asked and answered already.
This is it with me - you have had your third, fourth and fifth chance - Otherwise - I will return you to the ignore list with "the others"
I hope you wise up, were moving on.
Wayne Travis
President
HydroEnergy Revolution LLC
mr.wayne@hydroenergyrevolution.com

Why are you on an OPEN SOURCE forum when you obviously do not work openly?  It clearly says: "Open Source" on the home page.  Did you overlook this?  I mean, this is a pretty big deal to the folks here but somehow, you think it is ok to post here and not work openly?

With all due respect, this is crap.  It is OPEN SOURCE here for a reason and why should that change just to suit you and your investors?

Of course, you do not answer any one else's questions so I suppose you won't answer mine either. 

I wish you luck.

Bill

[mrwayne]

Hi GreenHiker,
I can see the point you are trying to make and if we were talking about an isolated statement you would be right,
but if you read the list of Waynes statements he does this repeatedly on the same subject, and never apologises
for breaking his word, now I'm sure if you do this to your friend...repeatedly promising that you could fix
his woodwork and then failing to do so...don't you think he would accuse you of being a liar.
If you get a chance please read through that list with a completely open mind and then tell me
if you think this is a person that can be trusted, his first statement in the list should ring alarm bells.

@ Wayne,
am I making your investors nervous by RE quoting your own words back at you(Remember their your words)
I hope you wise up Wayne as you keep proving my point that you must defend your words because that's all you have,
You have been on this forum for months telling everyone how easy it is to produce clear overunity and no one
has managed to do that despite Red trying to show everyone how easy it is.

You have failed so far to show clear overunity on this (overunit forum) please do something else other
then offering people words that leave them nowhere, produce some proper scientific evidence.

You chose "ignore."
Do you realize that smart tail comments does not really pass for intelligence - except around your like minded friends, you are surely impressing them.......enough said ......
Do your due dilligence ........the fame you currenlty "earned" is being served on a cold dish.
Good night
Wayne

[GreenHiker]

Pirate -

You must have been out at sea when this was last discussed.

Stefan (site owner) is the one that originally posted my videos of the Travis Effect on his front page. I was copied on Wayne's reply back to Stefan to confirm permission to post them.

I would direct your question to the owner of this site if you disapprove.

Tom

[mrwayne]

Why are you on an OPEN SOURCE forum when you obviously do not work openly?  It clearly says: "Open Source" on the home page.  Did you overlook this?  I mean, this is a pretty big deal to the folks here but somehow, you think it is ok to post here and not work openly?

With all due respect, this is crap.  It is OPEN SOURCE here for a reason and why should that change just to suit you and your investors?

Of course, you do not answer any one else's questions so I suppose you won't answer mine either. 

I wish you luck.

Bill

Hello again Bill,
I have answered this before, and thank you for the well wishes.
Open source - is a choice - crude or not - site name or not - we rebuilt the garden at the pregnancy crisis center and I am not obligated to be pregnant - but I get your point -
Stefan asked my motive, and he accepted what my intent was from the beginning - and since this is his site - I presume that is OK.
To be clear - I have read all the arguments and rants - I will share what I will with who I will.
I was more willing to share until some members began claiming they were here to steal and sell, and or turn in papers on the principal - we know not all people are good people. We are not naive and we have cleared what we share thru our attorneys.
The Fact of the matter is this:
My design has so many applications that it is truly a new frontier - we are gathering team members and connections to do what open source can not do - fund, protect, and provide assurance that this free energy device is delivered to customers.
p.s. we will be doing some of the funding.
Each of our members has the authorization to utilize our design, improve on it, and create new applications - we are open source in our protected, selected group - we came here to share teach and recruit. Those willing have made themselves known.
Open source in a selective manner - do you see how we have been treated here?
It has been worth it - we have met some great friends - and have been blessed by many visitors who would never post on this site - but heard about us thru it - this has been our invitation to some great men and women.
I was amazed that they were not deterred by the negativity - but I myself had never been to the site before - so everyone was like a new friend - well until the made it clear they had taken sides against us...... then it was clear.
And one more comment - just for fun - Pirate cruising on an open forum site - what gives.....spooky if I did not have such a solid IP.
Thanks Pirate - I appreciate your time and question. This whole process takes very good business planning, very thorough due diligence -
Wayne Travis
President
HydroEnergy Revolution LLC
mr.wayne@hydroenergyrevolution.com