Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[powercat]

Quote fm: mrwayne on Today at 12:52:49 AMro

May I suggest:
Go back and read the threads posted by me, by RED, by Neptune, by Larry, by SEE3D, by Wildew,
by Chris, by Webby, they got thier hands wet.
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By the above statement you are implying that these people have done experiments to try and show
Clear overunit based on the descriptions you have been posting for many months,
Now they are names in that list that I know for a fact have not got their hands wet testing
Your claims, does that make you a liar.....when you added together with all the other misleading
information that you provide it certainly shows a deliberate intent to deceive with out remorse.

Those people that did actually get their hands wet and spend time trying to follow your words,
all failed to produce clear overunit.
What is more ridiculous is some of the people who are trying to support you and your claim now,
have not produced any evidence of them getting their hands wet and producing clear overunit.

Now of course you will see this as an attack, rather than trying to put me down
Why don't you show us where the people that did get their hands wet went wrong.
and while you're at it why not announce a date for verification.

I don't think you will do anything useful to help anyone apart from repeating all your rhetoric
that we have been hearing over many months that has led to no one here having clear overunit.

You and your disciples keep preaching to us that it works and it's easy you just have to read the thread
get your hands wet and Abracadabra you will see the light and have clear overunit, sorry that last bit
should read you will believe that Wayne has clear overunit.
None of your followers on this forum have been able to reproduce your claim,NO clear overunit anywhere.

[Red_Sunset]

Well my interest started with Bedini and Bearden. ................................

Hi John,
Did you read Bearden's theories ? 
Did they make sense to you ?
His principles to OU didn't make sense to me years ago when I read them. I understood what he was saying, but it was to me so  ideologically out of this world,  that I classified it as mungo jumbo hogwash.   That view changed relatively recent, it is possible.
and Wayne found the key to unlock it.
Mark my words !!

[Red_Sunset]

On the "open source" topic.
I, for one, have found Wayne and friends to be very open.
Maybe I'm not bright enough to be considered a threat, maybe I've approached the relationship differently.
Many thanks to all that have supported the team's efforts.

If there does become a common desire to create a collaboration group I can think of a few easy options.
Google docs ( not that I trust Google )
OfficeZilla
Yahoo groups
Any can be by invitation only - or at least provide a level of control.

The open debate is good though, to a point.
IMHO this group's gotten a little crazy this week, but it takes 2 to argue.....
Dale

Dale,
That is a good suggestion, I like it and it would keep tabs on disclosure !
For me it would depend on Wayne intentions though,   I would never have the intention to do otherwise (and disregards the hand that led me out of the OU darkness).  Trust and dependability is high in my priority list.

[mrwayne]

So it would seem that you admit the machine has never actually worked for any length of time at all, and yet you seem convinced it produces overunity energy.

It's time to put some actual numbers to this. I and I'm sure many others would like to know how far from your goal you think you are.

What duration is the longest run to date?
What was the maximum power produced?
How long did it produce this level of power for?
What net amount of energy did it produce during the run?

I like your questions - becasue it is this the first time it was not followed by an insult?
I am sorry, but I am still not letting you or anyone else usurp the Validation team.
If you are sincere about knowing - show me you got your hands wet - or produce that "mathematical proof" you claimed against our machine. Simple
You are welcome to add a contribution - Just remember - you were not invited to evaluate our process - you were invited to learn and understand.
That is the order - my call - not yours.
I did not ask for an apology - just effort in learning our system - willingly of course.
To "Others":
a short recap in history - in case you don't have time to wade through the 213 pages.
I made the discover in 2008 (the Travis Effect) that lead to another design (the ZED) the first mechanical design to produce over unity - I had the design PE certified in 2009, I allowed Skeptics to come and make their own uninhibited evaluation - not one went away dissatisfied - (contrary to story tellers).
Actually none went away - they joined one way or the other to bring the benefit to mankind, good men/women....citizens.
We protected our designs in the normal Patent application method and began a much deeper research - As we researched our understanding - the process continually improved - so much so that our initial system become obsolete - before the world was ever to understand it.
It has been great for simple proof of "mechanical over unity" with just not so minor amount of effort to understand.
With the help of the Skeptics - a study was done on how to introduce this paradigm shift to the world.
The biggest obstacle to Free Energy - the current education system - careers were based on the belief in entropy and all that encompass the belief - if you do not know what I mean - read the educated entropy based insults for the last 215 pages - (not offering one shred of related disproof).
The conclusion led to a three fold effort - requiring three separate international teams moving in three separate directions but emerging together as one when all three goals were attained.
Now the final goal included a provision placed by myself to protect those other two teams - with undeniable, irrefutable, unprecedented proof - not for them - but for the world and all. They are brave men and women - they do not and will not be disrespected as I have been here on this site. My call.
The other two teams being fully aware of our internal process agreed to move forward to the world stage without my meeting my personal Goal of protection.
I stopped them - no - we will do it right - that is leadership.
Leadership is also delegating control - to the right people, Seamus - you are not the right people.
You made that decision for me - I wish you had done your due diligence - you seem very bright.
The "lack of relevance" of your questions comes after you do your work - many have.
Thank you for not insulting us this time, I still have hope for you.
If you come back with another barrage of attacks - you will have made your decision.
Good Luck. Wayne Travis
President
HydroEnergy Revolution LLC
mr.wayne@hydroenergyrevolution.com

[Red_Sunset]

Hey Minnie..... you think Mister Wayne answered your question.... but his answer was speculative. I don't think you'll be pouring a slab for the base of your new Hydro Differential Pressure Exchange Overunity 10 kW power plant based on what he's told you. Will you?
Mister Wayne never lies. He says so himself, so it must be true.
(He just says things that don't turn out to be correct, or are just wrong in the first place, like his last accusation against me which I refuted easily by quoting the passage from his website where he does _not_ explain "in the next line"... or anywhere.. how his "efficiency" of 960 percent was obtained).
So ask him these questions, Minnie -- and see if you get a straight, simple answer:
Do you, Mister Wayne Travis, have at this moment, Tuesday November 13 2012, an OPERATING DEVICE -- one that operates right now -- running on NO INPUT, that produces USEFUL WORK OUTPUT , electrical or otherwise, for a reasonable length of time, say, long enough to heat up a standard water heater tank and provide hot showers for four people? If so, what are the "footprint" dimensions of this device?

Do you now at this moment have... or have you EVER HAD..... an operating device that produces an output of 10 kW, running on NO INPUT, for any length of time at all? If so, what is the "footprint" of this device? What is the nature of its output (electrical, mechanical, heat, etc?)

I'm going to make a wild guess here.... actually not so wild.... and say that the actual answers to these questions are "NO"... and "NO".
Imagine how easily I could be refuted for asserting this "trash".  Why, another paragraph or two of insults, dodges, and mockery should do it soundly, right, Red?

It is NOT the physical device that matters !! ,  that is purely a matter of following the path of evolutionary engineering. 
Alike to and no different from that of "cars, airplanes computers and the like....!

What matters is the Travis PHYSICS PRINCIPLE  !!!  The Travis physics principle opens the new world, the new technology frontier, not the prototype.

Do not let small minded people lead you astray !!  Think for yourself !!