Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[mrwayne]

Look, here's the argument in a nutshell.

Which brings up an obvious (to me) question: where are the scientists?


Hello Team,
First let me say, We are being reviewed - by the best, you do not get the "best" unless you have demonstrated at least a solid chance of success.

Secondly, I am not on this site - as I have stated repeatedly - to convince you of anything, you have claimed the job for your self.

Nay sayers are welcome if the remain respectful - floating dogs is not, once if funny - repeatedly - that is something else.
If you want to know for sure - get in your car, on a plane and knock on my door - I love sharing our work.
Don't expect that from your insults I am going to feel obligated to you.

We have released our progress and I have spent considerable time sharing our hard earned research with those respectful enough study and ask.

Lastly regarding The Law - we have yet to claim and will not claim "over Ideal" or more than the energy available in the simple physics of our design -
We have very clearly claimed to be able to operate at a lower than we can generate. I have even explained how.

The entire thread on defying the laws is your interpretation of what we have - not ours.

The Travis effect (in its simple form) as Tom demonstrated - had a lower operating cost than the standard - very clear and simple - if you do not see it - well I understand if you do not come.

Wayne Travis

[johnny874]

  Wayne,
I made a simple request.
Is something wrong ?
The travis effect does not account for back pressure caused by back pressure.
Sorry but not my problem.

Jim

[mrwayne]

OK. Back to technical matters . A basic question for mrwayne. The machine itself is complex, involving several subsystems. My understanding is that the OU happens in the ZED itself. So my question is this.


Can one ZED onits own or at worst 2 ZEDs working together show overunity without additional systems.


If we are using just one ZED, we would need a water pump to supply the inlet, and a way to measure the input energy. We would use a the Zed  to raise a weight to measure the output as in force x distance, but the weight MUST be removed at the top of the stroke. It can be replaced again after the downstroke to be lifted again.


My reason for asking this question is this. One ZED , or even two, could be built by an experimenter . Then if OU can be shown at this time, there is the motivation to carry on and build a self running machine.

Three answers:

History, the first unit Mark came and checked was a simple input outout system - and we passed - that was in May of last year, so yes. It is a simple measurement of the volume and pressure required for the hydro input - compared to the Hydraulic out put - volume and pressure.

Works just like a pressure increaser - except the out put volume and pressure is greater than the a pressure increaser could produce.

The Second Model Mark tested was Closed looped - we merely bled off the excess fluid and ran totally free - we were  not trying to charge the CP battery. 

Second Part of the question - yes one Zed six layers is 190% two of the same systems linked 260%.

Out put energy is merely a portion of the "ideal," the ideal is a factor of width and height and number of layers.

The efficiency is not rated from the ideal - we are always under the ideal - efficiency is a factor of comparison to the internal operating cost.

To be clear - let me use this analogy - a six cylinder car - four cylinder provide free energy - two require input  - at the end of the day we have a six cylinder engine running self powered with a net free energy of two cylinders.  Much less than ideal - but free none the less.

Third Question:
Contact me privately and I will put you in touch with the authorized manufacturer of our Educational demo models - work with him - he is solving the same functional questions.

Wayne Travis 

[mrwayne]

Johhny,
I am respecting the personal request you sent me - no communication.
If you have changed your mind - please advise.
WT

[mrwayne]

I chose the Damn analogy *because* we know the ins and the outs of the system, that has not always the case however.  Like man can not fly, at the time of that statement many things were simply not known, but we learn.

The "Travis effect" shows an advantage in using a non-compressible item to replace a large volume that would otherwise require extra input to fill, it shows that you do not need to fill the whole volume with your input substance, hence a reduction in costs of operation.  I actually have been playing with a movable item filling the volume, just having fun and gaining understanding of the effect and ways of using it, this is making a float with weight sink.

If I use the buoyant value inside an accumulator to move something up and down and all that, have I diminished the function of the accumulator?

Hmmm,,, multi-tasking

I saw a post a while back, and got distracted by ..stuff again.

But if we can get back on track - I wanted to clarify the staging model I sent a couple of days ago -
It showed a weight on top - do not confuse this weight with the load on the system - the load is the Hydraulic cylinder not drawn - we were discussing water levels and pressures - with horrible spelling errors.......

The weights have three functions - (and they do eat part of the Ideal) but they do not add to the cost of the system in fact -they reduce the input costs:

For fun - can you tell me three energy savings from the weight on a two tank system:

To pick on your brain there is four dramatic reductions in the cost of operation directly from the Weight.

I had a science teacher rather sure that I was lost when I disclosed that a single system was 190% and a double was 260% efficient.

She was pretty sure of herself, my own engineer argued with me for two hours until he modeled it -
Not getting all out of your system - just does not compute to an engineer - and hence where the error in the search for free energy begins. The logic is - you must plan to take everything out of a system.. and  if you take everything out of a system ---- you have to put it all back in again - you can gain nothing.

But if you leave energy trapped in the system - changes things allot - a non technical term.

Wayne Travis