Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[mrwayne]

I would argue that your system IS a  Hydro pnuematic spring, and is not any more than that.
As springs do not provide overunity energy where does the claimed excess come from? No explanation given so far holds any water.

You would argue if I said you were smart.

[TinselKoala]

Well, I don't read Russian as well as I should but I can see already that there is a problem between Figs 1 and 2 in the first link. The water height "h" is shown to be the same, but if the figures are showing what happens when the ovoid shape is pushed into the water, that's wrong. As the shape is pushed under the water from the floating position in Fig. 1, the level of the water "h" will rise... and it is the lifting of this water which provides the buoyant force.

[mrwayne]

TK,

I completely agree.  The model building will not be a validation of anything so far presented.  I only thought it would be neat as a visual aid for teaching, if it is a working device.  I'm not trying to push it on anyone.  But since Mr. Wayne has offered to pay for the expense of the materials if we do a group build, I thought, "Why not?"

I think the maths are simple enough (so far) that we could either witness or not the OU without resorting to debating dimensional discrepancies. 

But (again) you are correct.  If it didn't work, it would be easy to look for some minuscule difference in the replication that posibbly changed the outcome.

I do not think that a  replication in table top form is necessary.  I just think it would be fun (if not costing anyone to much capital).

I ask again (earnestly), would you build?  If you didn't have to pay for materials?

I'd be happy to CAD (know you don't need it) if you want.  Just in case proportions are more important than I think and we can't receive better dimensional advice.

M.

A working replication from an outside source is awesome -

[TinselKoala]

@Mondrasek: I might be tempted to build something if there was an actual verified design, but right now I don't have my machine shop set up and the nearest one I can use involves a couple hours drive, so I'm not really too interested. Plus, two thousand dollars might buy some basic materials and pay for some expenses, but anyone can tell you... and I'm sure you yourself know.... that this won't buy very much of a skilled machinist's time, much less the time of skilled design engineers.  It would have to be a labor of love, and I don't love this particular labor.

There is a _lot_ of time and money spent on the machine we saw in the video. This is one reason why I cannot understand what is going on here, nor do I understand why MrWayne is making the two thousand dollar offer. If it already works, then it seems that this effort would only be useful to convince a few hobbyists and forum posters. But this effort _does_ make a sort of sense if it is looked at as sort of a "Steornish" effort at distributed development of an idea.

It would seem to me that CLaNZeR is much more in a position to perform this work than I am, but he doesn't seem to be interested either, for reasons of his own.

[mrwayne]

Hello All,
You may Reach me at mr.wayne@hydroenergyrevolution.com
I will ask my Web designer to add a blog to my site which will be a safe zone for positive discussion.
Thank you and Good Bye.
Wayne Travis