Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[mrwayne]

Hello All,
Pretests begin in the morning, so my time to post will be very limited.
Wayne

[mrwayne]

A good question was asked by a college student,
"It is guessed that the weight of the riser assembly (piston/float + top deadweight) is equaled by the default upward buoyancy force of 4.8psi.  A 8psi would nearly double this force. "

The guess is wrong:
The function of lifting a weight using the layering system has a different set of principles than using the weight to increase the pressure in the same chamber.

The linear scale of (hydro) pressure to lift increases toward ideal - this means we get more bang for the buck, lift more for pound in the higher range than in the lower - this is extremely useful - taking advantage of this relationship is fundamental.

In simple terms - increasing the pressure in the pod from 7 psi to 8 psi (hydro) of pressure will lift an additional 687 pounds (for the cost of 1 pound of work)
In the lower scale - 3.8 psi to 4.8 psi (Hydro) 458 pounds creates 1 psi of hydro pressure -

So the input value depends on the point in the scale - the weight value - and the lift value is also controlled by that scale


If you put 5500 pounds of weight on both of the Zed - we would have 8psi at all points - same scale = no gain.

Currently - we uses the lower scale weight to increase the value of the sinking system - while benefiting from the higher range on the upstroke.


Wayne

[neptune]

@Mondrasek. We basically share the same opinion on the laws of physics, and on assumptions. Perhaps the terminology I used could have been better. My point is this. Science is indeed a wonderful tool. It is the summation of all mankind`s knowledge up to the present day. But the worst assumption we can make is that we now know everything. Science needs to be updated in the light of new discoveries, which may lead to past assumptions being cast aside. After all we used to "assume" that the earth was flat. It only takes one white crow to prove that not all crows are black.People often fall into the trap of saying things like "There is no evidence that we can harvest energy from a conservative force." In the words of James Randi, "Absence of evidence is not evidence of abscence.


Here is something I have been thinking about. Wayne himself has said that this technology is not one-size-fits-all type of solution to the worlds energy problem. He has said that his device is probably not a cost effective way to power one home, but is more appropriate for groups of homes, farms, and industrial applications. And you will not be driving a Zedmobile anytime soon.
      Now think of first steam engines, used to pump water from mines . They were huge , cylinders of 6 feet diameter, and 30 foot flywheels . And boy, did they turn slow, maybe 20 RPM. A modern engine is much smaller, turns very much faster, and can have the same output power. So, within limits, the power of an engine is related to its speed. Wayne`s machine works slowly. There is probably an optimum speed of operation. We are pumping water through narrow gaps, that have to narrow. So the faster we force the water through, I suspect that the more energy we consume to do it. It seems logical that in a smaller demonstration model, that it could operate somewhat faster.
    So what I am saying is this. Although the energy density of this device is relatively low, if used for the right scale of application it is a world changer. And remember that this is just the beginning. Further development is inevitable.And equally important is the encouragement this will give to the searchers in other fields of energy research.

[mondrasek]

@neptune.  Yep, we are on the same page.  I only chimed in to hopefully clarify if anyone might interpret your prior post to mean that physics laws are being broken.  I do agree that the amendments and new information that would be a necessary part of acceptance of a ZED system would require a lot of texts to be changed.

Here is an idea that keeps coming to the forefront of my mind.  I work for a Japanese company and have for over 20 years.  So the plight of the Japanese people in the aftermath of their Tsunami/Earthquake disaster was watched by me any my coworkers quite intently.  The fallout from those events affect our ability to provide product to our customers still today.

Japan had around 50 nuclear reactors in operation at the time of the disasters.  Currently they have zero in operation.  As each reactor has been taken offline for maintenance the people of Japan have successfully protested to keep them powered down.  So now they are a highly industrialized country that is starved for power.  Acceptance and licensing of the ZED technology in Japan could be a major kickstart to world change.

M.

[neptune]

I know nothing of the Japanese from personal experience, but as everyone knows they are very innovative people. When Japanese motorcycles first appeared in the UK, they were considered a joke. Within a few years, the joke was on us. Their machines were light years ahead of ours. Fukushima was headlines for a time, but now we hear nothing . The  Japanese have to live with it, in some ways forever. They are not the only nation having a No More Nukes policy. What is the reaction in the UK? Oh haven`t you heard, we are having10 brand new ones. Hopefully they will get the sheds built just in time to install the ZEDs. Japan is an energy revolution just waiting to happen. She is not in a position to wait long.
        What I would like to see is one customer running a factory on this, who can not only cope with the publicity and visitors, but who can turn these visits to their advantage. Guided tours anyone? Of course the best factory for the job would be a ZED factory.


UPDATE. I have just read the latest news on mrwayne`s website. Two items immediately caught my attention. Firstly, his team are working on an "Educational Model" I will be interested to find when that will be available, and under what circumstances.
       Even more vital, it would seem that now, the actual source of the energy has been discovered. I very much look forward to finding out what that is. Might even silence a few nay-sayers, but I doubt it...