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Overunity Machines Forum



Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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mondrasek


johnny874

  With hydraul pressure, it ir not possible to create another static head that has greater pressure without a corresponding drop in the static head.
Work will always equal mass times distance.
His increased lift is because of lower pressure. He can install 2 pressure gauges in neighboring layers and see this is what is happening.

                          Jim

 

mondrasek

All,

Mr. Wayne's invention utilizes the effects of buoyancy.  Buoyancy results only in a field of Gravity.  Any Force generated by buoyancy is fundamentally different from Forces generated in standard pneumatic or hydraulic systems.  Here is a few examples why:

Gravity is a (field of) Force that only acts normal to the surface of the Earth (pulls things towards the center of the Earth).  Because Mr. Wayne's device relies on Gravity (buoyancy) it only works if the Zeds are normal to the surface of the Earth (standing up).  If you tip the Zeds on their side, they would no longer work.  A pneumatic/hydraulic cylinder will work in any orientation.

Gravity is a (field of) Force not found (strongly) in space or in Earth satelites such as the International Space Station.  Because Mr. Wayne's device relies on Gravity (buoyancy) it would not operate on the International Space Station.  A pneumatic/hydraulic cylinder will still work on the International Space Station.

Many Engineers are not intimately familiar with buoyancy.  This was the case for me before studying Mr. Wayne's device and the "Travis Effect".  You need to understand buoyancy, Head Pressure, and pressure differentials created by gravity to understand the operation of this device.  You cannot understand it if you are thinking this is a pneumatic or hydraulic device that is independent of gravity and buoyancy.

Hope this helps.

M.

Edited to add:  Sorry for the double post.

neptune

OK Guys and thanks for your help. My problem at this stage is as follows. Take the simple Travis effect . As soon as the Travis vessel lifts a short distance, the effect is lost. We can not overcome this problem by making the displacer block rise with the vessel . So how exactly do we overcome this problem. Is it by restricting the vessels rise to a short distance ? Is this why we need multiple vessels , or layers?
      Just suppose that instead of driving a generator, we wanted this machine to drive a winch , raising a weight. Could we replace the hydraulic system with a purely mechanical system, in theory at least?

mondrasek

@neptune,

I believe the "Travis Effect" is important to understand only because most think that buoyancy requires a large volume of air (or other lighter fluid) to be pressent in the buoyant device in order to achieve large buoyancy Forces.  It does not.  Only the height of the water (head pressure) on the outside of the vessel is important.  So Mr. Wayne was able to "nest" additional water columns and buoyant devices within each other, in the area usually assumed to be reserved for just the volume of air most think is necessary. 

The result is he has one water head pressure.  But he is using that THREE times to create buoyancy.

The single water head pressure is used to create three different head pressures on the three buoyant members in the device.  The sum of the three different head pressures is greater than the single water head pressure.  This results in overunity.  The Force being used to create this imbalance is apparently Gravity.

M.