Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[see3d]

I asked you some straight questions on behalf of all of the readers of this thread and I am requesting some straight answers.

Are we supposed to assume that you have a system that produces free energy and you won't tell us how you measure it?

Actually, you presume too much.  You are not asking questions on my behalf that I want answered right now.  I am happy to wait for the on-site verification by Mark Dansie first, then I will ask Mark about his test details.  Then if that passes, I will wait for the on-site engineering due diligence tests.  Then I will ask about the details of those tests. 

The sequence of due diligence tests have been repeatedly outlined by Wayne and Mark in the public forums.  Each step to be designed and taken in sequence based on a passing grade for each along the way.  A fail stops the follow-on test steps.

If you want to post concerns about the testing process or equipment, then I suggest you direct those to Mark.

Many posts have been presented in the "spirit" of an attack, rather than one of inquiry and constructive engagement.  These types of posts do nothing but fill the thread with noise that makes it hard to navigate the information.  Most want to pronounce the verdict before the trial is half over.

I don't have a problem with Wayne if he is wrong about the energy generation potential of his device.  If he is wrong, it will come out through the tests and reviews by those qualified skeptics who are tasked with the on-site verification.  I would not think the lesser of him for being wrong, because he has not tried to scam anyone by hiding what he has and knows.  He has invited the skeptics to prove him right or wrong.  All he has asked is that they respect his IP with an NDA if they want access to non-public information. 

[mrwayne]

I asked you some straight questions on behalf of all of the readers of this thread and I am requesting some straight answers.

Are we supposed to assume that you have a system that produces free energy and you won't tell us how you measure it?

You made my day - that was funny.
Just be professional - thats all I expect from you.
Ask Questions that are sincere -
Do not insult those who disagree with you -
Keep your stero types about inventors to yourself -
Do not ask questions to support your belief system -
ask questions with respect to the whole system -
Read what was already answered -
Leave the Ego out of the conversation -
Do not assert in your questions that you behold all the attainable knowledge in the universe.
And the hardest Part - which I am sorry to have to say -
You are the student here - not me - (on this one subject only) listen, look, ask proper questions, and learn.
If you want to learn - don't jump to conclusions -
If you already understood what we have enough to make a "conclusion" - you would have built it long ago..
Ready if you are.
Wayne Travis
p.s. In referance to the Validation - I set no parameters - nor obstructions - you can follow their report in regards to input and output measureing methods.

[MileHigh]

Wayne:

I have avoided discussing your system and instead I am focusing on the test results.  You have been talking in this thread about thousands of pounds of lifting force in the system, bla bla bla and then when someone comes along and asks you how you measure the energy out you croak.

You have tried to make me the issue and fired off your entire arsenal at me with everything under the sun in an attempt to put the spotlight on me and deflect it away from what really counts, the results.

Everybody knows that the spotlight is on the test results of your system.  It has nothing to do with me.

Why can't you say what the power output from your system is and what form it's in?  Why?  How can you talk about it over almost 60 pages of this thread and discuss all sorts of aspects of it and you crumble when somebody asks you about the output measurements?

If I was in your shoes and someone asked me what the output of the setup was I would tell them.  For Christ's sake, you have been working on it for months and months and months and you can't say what the output is?  You should be able to answer that question without batting an eyelash and give the details.  It's not even a question that asks about how your system works, it's just a question about the useful output and how you measured it.  It's unbelievable that you can't answer that question.

I am NOT the issue and you can whine and pout and deflect all you want, and sound wounded and in need of sympathy and perhaps some of the readers will buy it, and others not.

The first issue is the measurements of the output from your system will all of the data and test apparatus documented for everyone to see.

There is a secondary issue, which is you Wayne.  Watching you squirm and deflect and pout and try to make me out like the bad guy is not at all confidence inspiring for anyone.   It's a pathetic joke that you are pitching that you have a free energy machine based on buoyancy and when someone asks you for data on the output from said free energy machine you can't answer and then you do your dance.

I am done with this thread for now and I will be glancing in from time to time to read about any demos of the system and the results and how they were measured.

MileHigh

[MileHigh]

Ask Questions that are sincere

How much power output will your system deliver?  What form will the power output be in and how will you measure it?  What equipment will you be using for the measurements with manufacturers' names and part numbers?

It can't get any more sincere than that.

[mrwayne]

First - as I have stated before - We are not doing the testing - and I am sure they will not use our equipment.
Second - we test our system by running closed looped - no fuel - no emissions, no inputs, and running a simple load.
(with the new cylinders bronze type bushings a little noise - but this is temporary). 
A note you might have missed - we have nine energy conversions in our system - all with losses - we can not even capture all the lift from the Zed - and still we have ample to demonstrate our point - at some point - putting a gauge on it sinks a little deeper into the testing of the past systems - which might have been "barely" overunity.
Our system is basically a self running pump - one of our Beta model will be for agricultural pumping, the other three will be for electrical conversion and demonstrating scale ability.
What you do with it is based on demand -
How much you want - is based on scale.
If you are wanting to know the specifics of our demo - I will let you know when we have finished the runs - promise.
Thanks.
Wayne