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Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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TinselKoala

@fletcher: wow, that was a lot of work, and very nicely done too. Thanks....
But in your last picture, shouldn't the center of mass symbol in the third, final state read "250 kg" and not  125?

In your first series of images you have it as 250, and I think the PE calc uses that value, so no problem there, but that "125" is puzzling in the last set.

@see3d: Is it possible to compute and display a "break-even" line on your transfer graph set? I think you know what I mean, a line or point where, if your data exceeded that, it would indicate overunity or excess energy performance. I know that this information can be extracted from the data you show, but it would be neat to see it as a line on the graph too.

Red_Sunset

Quote from: TinselKoala on September 11, 2012, 03:18:47 AM
I find this to be incredibly insulting.
..................... With your numbers, a ten year old child with a hacksaw, some super glue and sandpaper could win MrWayne's ten large in a long afternoon on the kitchen table, and have it cleared away by suppertime.

TinselKoala,
Sorry if I came over a bit strong !
I have no problems with your opinions, deductions...ect. I know them. You are entitled to them,
All I want, is not having to face them unsolicited,  keep them on the forum. 
Live and let live,  Peace my friend !
Michel

fletcher

Quote from: TinselKoala on September 11, 2012, 03:51:20 AM

@fletcher: wow, that was a lot of work, and very nicely done too. Thanks....
But in your last picture, shouldn't the center of mass symbol in the third, final state read "250 kg" and not  125?

In your first series of images you have it as 250, and I think the PE calc uses that value, so no problem there, but that "125" is puzzling in the last set.


LOL, absolutely correct TK - mind fade when doing others things, forgot to update the visual but the mass was correct for the calcs - I could change it out but there won't be a test on it - guess I buy the first beer  :'(

Red_Sunset

Quote from: seamus103 on September 11, 2012, 02:01:47 AM
  I'm willing to wager anyone up to 50 thousand US dollars that this device will not produce a single Joule of overunity energy. This would be as measured by a suitably qualified and mutually agreed validator (and with a time limit of 1 year as I don't want to grow too old before I can collect your cash...)    Are you in...

Seamus,
No my man, I do not need your money, I am sure one of the replicators will be happy to relieve you from it.
It only highlites how much your outlook is of the mark. The over-unity forum is not a competition site, neither a betting site. Neither I am right and you are wrong or visa verso. For me it doesn't even matter if it is OU or not,  what matters is what I learned and that I grew

I really feel sad how so much misunderstanding can sprout forth on such a simple technical subject.

Let me re-verbalize the challenge at the start of the topic
Guys,  I put this multilayer buoyancy device together, connected it in a see-saw fashion and a bit of tuning here and there, to my surprise it runs by itself and I can even take some power off to light a lamp.
Here are the details on how it works and measurements of my demo system that I put together,  I share it with you here on the forum so you can possibly learn something from it to.
When it comes to numbers, I can only give you generalized data, since I am planning to put it into production, I have registered for a patent already.  I have some theories on where the OU comes from but I am not 100% sure, I know it is input cost savings that made the most effect.
He asks the forum, What do you think ?

Forum's reply
We can not look at this without you giving us all the internal test data. If we do not get it, then for us it doesn't work and you are lying.  This is a fraud. You do not have a working device.....ect.   You better tell us, so we can give our blessing. A polarization

What was expected
Let me have a look at this,  let me figure out what novelty is being presented here.  How does it work exactly, where do the over-unity gains come into the picture and how are they achieved.
Here is a counter argument, researched and based on the info conveyed, here is the reason why you can not claim over-unity. If the model does work, then we are missing some data here.

Expected end result, 
Confirmation of a misunderstanding in a process, procedure, calculation...ect
Confirmation of a new technique that works its way around conservation.
or something else would be revealed

But what did we get
Members bumbling with inferior plastic models that can not confirm anything.  A confirmation of the theory would produce enough assurance to invest for a proper model to be made.
The forum is now becoming a betting place to put leverage behind a technical position.....interesting
Some member saying ......&%$####$&)(***

Adieu!

TinselKoala

@Red_Sunset: what you are posting is an automatic email notification that you get from the forum when you have a PM inside the forum. You can disable that notification and then you won't get unsolicited emails. You can also put any forum member on your "ignore" list and then you won't see their posts in threads nor will you see PMs from them unless you specifically override the setting.

Profile>Account Settings>Modify Profile>Notifications, Ignore List

I really don't understand how anything I do or say could possibly prevent you from doing exactly as you like, though, and I'm puzzled as to why you seem to think that it could.