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Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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TinselKoala

Impressive! I might not have thought of that indirect method. Another way would be to photograph the level , next to a reference ruler, and then use dividers on the blow-up photo.

Eyeball errors, and stretchy tape errors .... some random and some systematic. Easily accounted for by statistical methods, with a large enough set of runs. But I'm happy with your figures.

I just don't know what, exactly, they are measuring. That is, since the precharge is supporting the weight of the moving parts, maybe the added water is just lifting--- the added water.

It seems to be unusually quiet around here lately. Are the implications of the automatic bollard analogy starting to sink in? Perhaps this _is_ the secret of the Zed... reducing the input work required to lift the weight, by precharging a spring.

wildew

Quote from: webby1 on September 26, 2012, 05:53:27 PM
The "magic" is in the precharge,, but the questions are, how is it put there and what all it can do.

Good one  ;)

Not sure how relevant "how it is put there" is.
As in: The exact method counts or the same final result counts.
If there is more than 1 way to achieve the same pressure and volume balance does it matter how it's accomplished?
YES - proper setup seriously affects system performance.

M. seems to be demonstrating that the setup doesn't diminish except for possibly some evaporation. That could be minimized by a loose sleeve or hood for the outer riser.

mondrasek

Quote from: wildew on September 26, 2012, 06:36:02 PM
M. seems to be demonstrating that the setup doesn't diminish except for possibly some evaporation. That could be minimized by a loose sleeve or hood for the outer riser.

While I am not 100% sure of what I may be demonstrating, I am 100% sure that the air in the setup (precharge) does not diminish (is not being consumed/being converted to any measurable output energy).

But I am also still not sure what I am measuring or what "should" be measured.

So I am not ready to pursue multiple tests to check for the standard deviation of any reported test measurements.

First I want to find a bon-i-fied "anomaly."  Then I'd love to test the f*** out of it!

M.

wildew


mrwayne

Just my opinion -
I think it might be an "anomaly" to pay for something (lift a load and take it off)...
and then get all your money back (exhaust value = to input)  Every time. ;)
Why it works is the brain teaser.....have fun  :)
What can do nothing without its head, what does work when storing its head, and does more work when giving its head away? A ZED. 
p.s. really good mood - our optimized six layer system just tested "twice" as efficient "more" than we have ever reported!
In about three weeks - you will hear all about it!
Wayne