Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[TinselKoala]

YES BOSS, Right away !!!
What a jackass you are!!!  Just unbelievable, your distorted ramblings that have no relation to reality.

You insult me again, and all I wanted was for you to call your hero and ask him if his promised validation was underway. In other words, I called your bluff. And you folded. You apparently don't even have enough faith, to bother testing it.

What a jackass YOU are, Red.  Reality? I laugh at you, because you seem to have no idea what reality is. There is no self-running Hydro Differential Pressure Exchange Overunity System.

Where do I ramble? I am focused very intently. WHERE IS THE SIMPLE, THREE LAYER SYSTEM THAT IS CLEARLY OVERUNITY BY ITSELF? You don't know, you can't demonstrate it, you cannot explain how its clear overunity was determined. Instead you fill pages with your "explanations" that explain nothing and your posts full of insults.  But I think if you or Mister Wayne, or LarryC, really had what you and he claim, you wouldn't bother to spend any time here at all. Why should you? And if Webby really understood the system like he thinks he does, he'd have a self-runner by now IF IT WERE POSSIBLE. Don't you think that's true? What is keeping the BELIEVERS who claim to fully understand the system, from building one of their own? I know what.

Sure, complain and whine that you don't have to prove anything to ME. And of course you don't. A good thing for you.... because you cannot.

[Red_Sunset]

..............................................................He is my big question:  What were the motivations of Wayne and company for coming here?  Why was this thread started?  What purpose did it serve?  What is the real reason for all of this discussion?  Who does it benefit, who does it hurt?
Those are serious questions and I would encourage all participants in this thread to express their opinions when we cross that hurdle.
Permit me also to preemptively raise an issue.  I have seen free energy schemes get busted and then all of the believers in the thread might go mute or simply write off the whole experience and say almost nothing.  I have seen them say, "Well I learned something" without saying what they learned.  For the believers, show some spirit!  If you are frustrated and angry for whatever reason then say it!  Surely you must have some thoughts and feelings about being used!  Express yourselves, don't just end up as passive patsies.
But again, the real post-mortem for this thread should be to examine and speculate about the motives and reasons that the promoters of this free energy scheme came here in the first place.  I would like to see an honest and open discussion about that take place.  This includes parties from ALL sides of the debate.  The losers should not just pack up and run.  Let's all have a good stimulating debate and try to learn something from this experience.   
MileHigh 

Hi MileHigh,
You wrote some interesting and valuable, worthwhile words. 
I do not believe (at this point) that Wayne's invention falls into the the said category. But we need to be realistic and see the world in its full and broad spectrum, for the good and the bad, the deceptions, the truths and the untruths, the dis- and misleading information, actions to uphold the image, ect..
The big question raised and was raised before, but never been satisfactory answered and I think it deserves an understanding.  I have some idea's but these are pure speculations based on gathered telltales and totally uncorrelated, time will clarify.
A point was raised that there are possible winners and losers in this game. Possible winners yes, still a bit puzzled that going on the forum could produces losers.
Exploring who has "interests" is a good exercize to understand the motives behind the visual actions seen.   
For example, why would a skeptic lower himself to a low level to disprove someone's understanding on something he can not understand yet. Why so called experts want to force by threat rather than engage on. What is their interest?
There are many dynamics on this forum playing itself out. Most likely the reason why I am still here.
This understanding is most likely just as important than the working principle
A bright Sun_Rise is coming.

[TinselKoala]

There is only one thing that anyone needs to understand about this system: the claims of overunity performance have not been supported by proof.

And let me also point out that we are already far along MileHigh's road of progression. Mister Wayne has already fled this forum, and has done the bait-and-switch dance twice in October alone, and it's now November, and there still is no report from any independent "validator" who has seen a HDPE Zed system running itself indefinitely, making useful work on the output, with no input.

He hasn't been suppressed by Big Oil, hasn't suffered the fate of so many other Free Energy discoverers..... he's just been working quietly in southern Oklahoma for years, making free energy (between leaks and rebuilds) and nobody seems to be noticing.  It doesn't seem like he's even up to the Rossi standard: at least Rossi got some interest from NASA, and scientific journalists from around the world are following Rossi's story. But Mister Wayne is like the best kept secret in the backwaters of Oklahoma. Maybe that's why he started posting here, on this reknowned international free energy open source forum -- he's trying to catch up with Rossi, because if Rossi's device hits the market before the HDPE does, nobody is going to want one of Mister Wayne's noisy, inefficient, huge kludges, when you can just hook up a small, quiet, COP>6 cold fusion ECat to your home for all your energy needs.

[Red_Sunset]

It is clear from this forum that science isn't just a dull & quiet environment for geeks.
The following audio book sheds some light on what kind of intrigue might be going on here
To succeed, knowledge must be pursued by any means, with passion !

The Secret Anarchy of Science: Free Radicals (Audiobook) By Michael Brooks, read by Matt Addis
Unabridge edition 2012 | 9 hours and 29 mins | ISBN: n/a , ASIN: B008CBW9B2 | MP3 56 kbps | 191 MB

For more than a century, science has cultivated a sober public image for itself. But as best-selling author Michael Brooks explains, the truth is very different: many of our most successful scientists have more in common with libertines than librarians.

This thrilling exploration of some of the greatest breakthroughs in science reveals the extreme lengths some scientists go to in order to make their theories public.     Fraud, suppressing evidence, and unethical or reckless PR games are sometimes necessary to bring the best and most brilliant discoveries to the world's attention. Inspiration can come from the most unorthodox of places, and Brooks introduces us to Nobel laureates who get their ideas through drugs, dreams, and hallucinations.
Science is a highly competitive and ruthless discipline, and only it's most determined and passionate practitioners make headlines - and history.
To succeed, knowledge must be pursued by any means: in science, anything goes.

An evaluation copy can be found here: http://avaxhome.ws/ebooks/audiobook/B008CBW9B2.html

[Red_Sunset]

Some strong words,
The Secret Anarchy of Science
Text example: This books is a call for more scientific anarchy and for the creation of a culture in which it can thrive (looks very much like this forum)
Our future may depend on it.  So let it rip !

A 5 minute sample attached