Romero's Muller Dynamo discussions

[gauschor]

The big question here is will the magnets de-gauss in the long run or not?

Good question. Since the base construction is mostly equal to a common generator I would assume there will not so much degauss happen. If it were a motor consisting of permanent magnets only (though such a device not yet exists) and magnets fully repelling each other magnet then I'm afraid it would demagnetize in the (not so) long run. But this is not the exactly the case in here. Once again only experiments and observation over a long time will show...

[teslaalset]

Hi folks,
I would like to hear your opinions on the following thoughts:

I certainliy think Romeros machine would be a breakthrough if it can be replicated.
However I do not believe that this machine though it is a self runner would be rightfully called an overunity machine.
If what Bill Muller says is correct the driving force is in the neodymium magnets.
The production of these magnets must consume lots of energy. So by rights the machine would not be overunity until it produces more energy than it cost us to produce the magnets. And that would mean it has to run a long time.
The big question here is will the magnets de-gauss in the long run or not?
I dont know if the core material can be another source of energy thru the
process Bedini calls the pumping of the Bloch wall. Is there an influx of energy from the surroundings or not?
I certainly do not want to belittle what Romero has done. It would be great to have a formula for a self runnig machine because it would open the door to studying the effects in the coils, the tuning and so on. This might have a big impact on other OU concepts as well.
Lemme know what you think!
Albert

Something on the cost balance:
Magnets are relative cheap.
My estimation is that the energy cost to make them is about 5 -10 % of the selling price, so probably 20 cents max per magnet.
Price of a KWh is around 20 cents here in Europe.
So we need to get roughly 8 + 2x9 magnets max for this exact copy of RomeroUK's setup.
This means it should generate 26 KWh before dying out and compensate for the energy cost to make the magnets.

[TEKTRON]

Somehing on the cost balance:
Magnets are relative cheap.
My estimation is that the energy cost to make them is about 5 -10 % of the selling price, so probably 20 cents max per magnet.
Price of a KWh is around 20 cents here in Europe.
So we need to get roughly 8 + 2x9 magnets max for this exact copy of RomeroUK's setup.
This means it should generate 26 KWh before dying out and compensate for the energy cost to make the magnets.

I used to make oxygen analyzers. The magnetics were critical and needed to be balanced . Using nickel horseshoe magnets, I found that (NN-SS) interaction between two mags, weakened or balanced the magnetism between the two magnets. In other words, forcing the like poles together, instantly, and permanently weakened and balanced the mag force between the two mags. On the other hand, in attraction mode (NS-NS)there was no notable change in magnetic strength. (calibrated Gauss meter)
Because this setup uses attracting forces, I do not foresee a great reduction in magnetic flux over time.     

[albert]

Thank you for these answers.
If someone gets this machine to run we will be in the situation that no one can explain it....

Theories:
1- The energy is in the magnetics.
2- The energy comes from something that happens inside the ferrite cores.
3.-Some mysterious external energy is captured by the machine.

I think the parallels to some of the other machines we have been building for years are too great to be overlooked. Many of the characteristics of this machine seem to be also built into the Bedini Ferris Wheel.

Anything else? I'd like to hear some of your ideas on it!

Albert

[jimbo]

The energy according to Tesla is in the carbon rods .it was found after his death that Newman used eight carbon rods in his units .he didn't get much because he didn't use magnet's to give the beta radiation polarity .its called vsg ..Valle synergy generator..its really a isotope flipping device.if you pluse a carbon rod with voltage above 100 volts ..the higher the better.. A small amount of the carbon isotope's flip to boron then back giving off beta radiation spraying it everywhere.but if you place a magnet string next to the carbon it Stays in the wire .giving more energy .easy cheep testing filling caps ect.